What do witches/sorcerers deserve now?

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Tom of Assisi:
Perhaps the moon goddess is exerting some strange power over us…
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shrugs I said moon, not moon goddess. I suppose whatever you want to believe.
 
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BlessedBe13:
off the top of my head…no. I meant more if any other person had been through the same I would have felt bad as well. But there have been countless people tortured, etc. for various reasons.
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You do realize, I hope,that Jesus willingly went through that torture for you and me,us sinners. :eek:
 
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SPOKENWORD:
You do realize, I hope,that Jesus willingly went through that torture for you and me,us sinners. :eek:
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Other people have died willingly for what may or may not have been good causes. But I do not believe that Jesus was God.
 
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BlessedBe13:
Other people have died willingly for what may or may not have been good causes. But I do not believe that Jesus was God.
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They may have died for good causes but they did not die for you like Jesus did. :eek:
 
How about we make them watch non stop reruns of Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
 
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BlessedBe13:
Come and get me then. :rolleyes:

And people tell me I need to grow up.
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Acctually, I am an atheist. I was attempting to show what the bible says about witchcraft,etc. because of everyone claiming what a “moral” tome it is. I didn’t mean to offend.
 
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Monarchy:
Acctually, I am an atheist. I was attempting to show what the bible says about witchcraft,etc. because of everyone claiming what a “moral” tome it is. I didn’t mean to offend.
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Nice try chief. Morality is short and simply obedience to the will of God. That is the objective definition of morality. You cannot be an objectively moral person if you reject God, as you have also rejected the objective standard by which morality is judged. In the old covenant, which was a material, physical one, disobedience to the will of God (the Law), had immediate, physical consequences which were spelled out in the Law. The new covenant is a spiritual one. Violating this covenant doesn’t have immediate physical consequences. The consequences are spiritual and eternal. But since you reject all this, who cares. 🙂
 
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SPOKENWORD:
They may have died for good causes but they did not die for you like Jesus did. :eek:
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Except that I don’t believe that. Or even if Jesus died “for” everyone, that doesn’t mean that it made a difference in my life.
 
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Monarchy:
Acctually, I am an atheist. I was attempting to show what the bible says about witchcraft,etc. because of everyone claiming what a “moral” tome it is. I didn’t mean to offend.
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I got your message. It’s no problem. I was mostly being sarcastic since you can’t find me anyway :p. But I get what your post was saying now, and I do agree.
 
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BlessedBe13:
Except that I don’t believe that. Or even if Jesus died “for” everyone, that doesn’t mean that it made a difference in my life.
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It does, you just don’t realize it. Much like gravity, you can deny it all you want, it still keeps you from flying off into outer space.
 
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Apologia100:
Morality is short and simply obedience to the will of God. That is the objective definition of morality.
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Perhaps that is the Christian definition of morality. But not everyone is Christian, now are they?
The dictionary says:
morality

  1. *]The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct.
    *]A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct
    *]Virtuous conduct.
    *]A rule or lesson in moral conduct.
    You cannot be an objectively moral person if you reject God, as you have also rejected the objective standard by which morality is judged.
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    Except I seem to know a lot of atheistic and other non-Christian people that have good morals, perhaps even better than many Christians.
 
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Apologia100:
It does, you just don’t realize it. Much like gravity, you can deny it all you want, it still keeps you from flying off into outer space.
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Gravity is objective reality.

Jesus being God is not.
 
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BlessedBe13:
I seem to know a lot of atheistic and other non-Christian people that have good morals, perhaps even better than many Christians.
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Christians still have an objective standard to live by, even if they do fail to live up to that standard. Atheists live perfectly according to their standard, because they beleive they get to create their own standard, and modify it when it becomes to constraining.
 
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Apologia100:
In the world according to you.
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No, I’m not the only person in the world who believes this.

But I suppose I could say that Jesus is God in the world according to Christians. Doesn’t make it truth.
 
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Apologia100:
Christians still have an objective standard to live by, even if they do fail to live up to that standard. Atheists live perfectly according to their standard, because they beleive they get to create their own standard, and modify it when it becomes to constraining.
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I can’t speak for all atheists, but the ones I do know, get their standards from a combination of how they were raised, life experiences, society and people around them, their own judgments of things that are inherently wrong (i.e. murder, rape), etc.

More importantly, they have stuck by their standards and not changed them if they become too contraining because to them that would be hypocritical and wrong.
 
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BlessedBe13:
No, I’m not the only person in the world who believes this.

But I suppose I could say that Jesus is God in the world according to Christians. Doesn’t make it truth.
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No, only to the 1 billion + who know it is truth.
 
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Apologia100:
Christians still have an objective standard to live by, even if they do fail to live up to that standard. Atheists live perfectly according to their standard, because they beleive they get to create their own standard, and modify it when it becomes to constraining.
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Who is more moral, an atheist doing good because he believes it the right thing to do, or a theist doing good so he doesn’t get punished in the afterlife?
 
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Monarchy:
Who is more moral, an atheist doing good because he believes it the right thing to do, or a theist doing good so he doesn’t get punished in the afterlife?
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What’s the difference? Fear of eternal damnation keeps me in line at times when I don’t WANT to be “in line”. Atheists suffer from no such complex.
 
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