Please don’t judge the Catholic Church by the behavior of some of it’s members. Remember, the Church is not so much a hotel for saints as it is a hospital for sinners, and some of us have farther to go before we are “cured.” As someone said in a post on another thread,you should judge an organization on its best members, not it’s worst.
Thank you Robert. I must have been neededing that. I keep forgetting I am the worst.Please don’t judge the Catholic Church by the behavior of some of it’s members. Remember, the Church is not so much a hotel for saints as it is a hospital for sinners, and some of us have farther to go before we are “cured.” As someone said in a post on another thread,you should judge an organization on its best members, not it’s worst.
I love the statement,Please don’t judge the Catholic Church by the behavior of some of it’s members. Remember, the Church is not so much a hotel for saints as it is a hospital for sinners, and some of us have farther to go before we are “cured.” As someone said in a post on another thread,you should judge an organization on its best members, not it’s worst.
Trust me, I’m far from being a model Christian. Maccabees’ sentiments I have found indicative of not a few lay Catholics and higher up. I’m not so upset at Maccabees, but in his theology behind his post in which he used it to defame a dead man. This is one of the many, many issues I haven’t resolved in dealing with Catholicism.Please don’t judge the Catholic Church by the behavior of some of it’s members. Remember, the Church is not so much a hotel for saints as it is a hospital for sinners, and some of us have farther to go before we are “cured.” As someone said in a post on another thread,you should judge an organization on its best members, not it’s worst.
Because it claims he didn’t believe in purgatory, because he used the term “dammit” or because his name was misspelled in the joke?
The Catholic Church assumes dead people’s fates all the time. They are called Saints. Some people (myself perhaps included) think that can be pretty presumptuous, but certainly not made to slander or belittle.
It seems here that a litteral interpretation has messed up a good joke.
I wasn’t referring to you, but to Maccabees. I am a slave to Jesus Christ, I recommend you be a slave to him also.
Alan, I would ask you one question - does the joke make Luther look like a fool? yes, it does. It was a judgement on his character as the previous comments above the joke indicate. Read the whole thing.
please fill me in on what you are talking about…and that remark my friend just shows how very little you know.
If she is a slave to our spiritual mother, you can rest assured she is already a slave to her divine Son!
This is one of the teachings I cannot accept, I must be honest here. Are you saying that we must go through the Holy Mother to get to her Son? If that’s your take on this, then I cannot accept that. I admire Mother Mary and appreciate all she has done.
Frankly, I have no interest in Mariology. I agree that at this point in my faith life it would be utterly useless. Does it have to be useful in my faith life? I am glad to hear of your love for Christ. After all, he is your Redeemer. I say this with love and without malice, believe me.
Mary as co-redemptrix is a doctrine not a dogma. When explaining this term to your friend, make sure he understands that the Church does not teach (never has and never will) that Mary as co-redemptrix is equal to Christ. “Co” is from the Latin “cum,“ meaning “with”. “Trix” is a feminine suffix, so the word means “the woman with the redeemer”—the woman with the one doing the act of redemption.
lighten up is a common phrase around here. Like I already mentioned before, salvation is serious. I have no humor in that regard. as for Luther’s comments - I don’t defend them. Neither do I wish to make him look like a fool.to ahimsaman72
ITs a joke. This is not to represent a literal theology. You will see this scenario in cartoons all the time. Do you take those cartoons literally. Its hyberbole is over the top.
I have read Luther’s rant’s he has said far worse things about Catholics and Jews he accursed both of us. And he wasn’t joking.
At least in my joke he makes it into heaven. For a guy who takes everything so seriously you should read the slander of Luther for yourself and not rely upon the saint Luther scenario you have in your head.
Look I have no idea if Luther made it into heaven or hell or made a trip to purgatory this is not to be taken literally so lighten up or else you will end up like Luther an uptight anti-catholic.
I have read from another catholic website that bishops around the world and lay people have written to Pope JP11 to have it infallibly taught as true. Yes, eventually Mary will be taught as co-redemptrix.