What's the point in dating in today's society

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Well at school we had to have sexual harassment training and in so many words the lecturer said unwanted advancements were harassment and advancements included staring and asking for dates
 
I think again, you are generalizing. Or the lecturer was. Yes, staring is harassment, but asking for a date in a non- creepy way of someone that you have actually been having a nice conversation with is not.

Look, you are in law school. I know you are able to digest information. There is no way you actually believe asking someone on a date is harassment.
 
AlNg said:
I don’t see why that is important.
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Are you a woman? If not, how tall are you?
Roseeurekacross said:
And why are we, who live the faith life, using this term? Ascribing to this philosophy?

Rules and tricks =

Tricks = the work of Satan. Need I go on?
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Did ‘we’ ever say we ascribe to this philosophy? If there even is a philosophy, which is debatable. Have ‘we’ heard of it? Yes. Do a lot of people who push Game Theory also push degeneracy, yes. Are some of the ‘techniques’ dumb or geared toward one-night stands? Yes. Does that mean it’s all worthless? No. Can it help you understand people and what makes them tick? Sure. Can it be used by Christian men to help their dating life? Probably.

If I show you a trick to getting your car out when it’s stuck in a snow bank, am I doing the work of Satan? There are multiple meanings to tbe word ‘trick’. Game Theory has a lot of tips, if you prefer that word, about how to approach women, gauge their interest, and keep their interest.

Now, as I said before, most of it is self-explanatory. But some guys didn’t have very happy childhoods and a lot of social development was stunted, so for what is just basic social cues for you and me is an totally foreign language for them. Also, some of them are stuck in the ‘Beta Nice Guy’ category and honestly think that is what women find attractive, and it can help them to learn: no, most women do not find that attractive. Other guys lack confidence, so having a system they can follow and practice can help them work through their natural anxiety. Granted, these are ‘low quality’ men so most people just laugh and watch them struggle, or give them terrible advice that doesn’t help, but some people do care and so they find it interesting to communicate what they have learned.

Personally, I don’t really use ‘Game’ (everyone plays to a certain degree whether they like it or not) because I don’t really have any interest in dating. But I still find the study to be interesting and informative.
 
If there’s a policy in your workplace that coworkers cant date each other and you ask out a coworker that could be considered harassment.

There’s no policy like that at my school. But I’m being honest sometimes I’ve heard girls go on and on about how creepy a guy was just because he asked her out and she wasn’t into him and how he should’ve known she wasn’t into him
 
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We are not discussing your dating in a workplace that has a policy in place though.
 
Still. It’s not smart to be known as a creep in grad school. I’d rather not date in law school than develop a reputation based on me asking out someone and her feeling bad about it
 
The issue is not whether or not he believes it’s harassment, it’s whether the woman believes it’s harassment.
 
Exactly. And in today’s environment things can get out of hand easily.
 
I was on the board of a nonprofit art studio in town. A guy that I worked with had to ask a girl to leave a show because she was underage and drinking. She punched him and he pushed her out the studio. The story went from he pushed her to he punched her to he raped her. People often ruin other people’s reputations
 
That’s why there’s this new app called bumble where women have to message men first and it’s getting really popular
 
That’s not what I said. I think people should ask each other out. I’m just trying to provide an explanation as for why young men may be wary of approaching women. However, I don’t this this sort of climate of fear exists beyond campuses and young men will figure it out once they go out into the real world.
 
i think it’s mostly fear of rejection. But once guys realize rejection isn’t a big deal then they’re ok. But I’d say I’m more afraid of being seen as a creep more than I’m afraid of a girl not liking me. An allegation of sexual misconduct can cost you your career and rumors ruin lives
 
Haha. Truth be told I think I’m an average looking and charming guy. But I’ll convince myself to not approach a young woman more often than I approach a young woman. Maybe it’ll change after law school
 
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No my mom thinks it would be better if I never married because she’s convinced that women will just want to take advantage of me because I’m financially well off.

It makes sense. There are a lot of divorces out there. My mom would rather me just live with someone and never marry. That way she could have grandkids and she wouldn’t have to worry about me being taken advantage of. But I’d never live with someone unless I were married since I believe in the sacrament. My mom thinks people only get married because they’re young and dumb or because they’re trying to take someone’s money
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If you live modestly, people who don’t know you well won’t realize you’re well off unless you tell them. If you drive a modest car and aren’t flashy, you won’t attract golddiggers.

Divorce is actually rather uncommon among the upper middle class. There are all sorts of demographic factors that you are on the right side of: age, income, educational level, etc. Here’s an article you might want to have a look at:


“Couples who make more than $125,000 a year (combined) cut their divorce risk in half.”

Regular churchgoers are also 46% less likely to divorce.

“Men are 50 percent more likely to end up divorced when they said their partner’s looks were important in their decision to get married, and women are 60 percent more likely to end up divorced when they cared about their partner’s wealth, compared to people who said they cared about neither.”

I’m sure you’re aware that the chances of bringing up children to adulthood together with a live-in is pretty poor.

“The challenge is kids with cohabiting parents are three times more likely to experience their parents’ break-up by the age of 5 than kids with married parents,” says Brad Wilcox, director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia and associate professor of sociology. “They have less stability, security, legal and cultural support.”

 
I’d never live with someone before marriage. I want to wait for marriage too. My mom’s ideas aren’t my own. I believe in marriage. It’s a sacrament that reflects the love of God. My mom doesn’t really believe in love because I think she tried to love my dad and he never loved her back. She’s told me she only really married to have a child.

That’s not my view. It’s hers
 
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But I’ll convince myself to not approach a young woman more often than I approach a young woman.
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Yeah, I got that impression.
The more girls you actually talk to or ask out, the higher your odds of actually connecting with one. It’s like the salesman who gets one sale out of 100 cold calls. If he never makes the 99 calls where people hang up on him or yell, he will not reach the one person who wants to buy.
 
Except I’m not a car salesman. I’m going to be an attorney. If people need help they come to me.

I get the analogy you made but I’ve never thought about meeting people in that way. I’ve always just done whatever I’ve liked doing and met people naturally. I never made a goal to try to find a girlfriend or even just a friend because I never had a problem making friends.
 
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