Who will you be supporting in the U.S. presidential election with our Catholic values in mind?

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HomeschoolDad said:
The Democratic party does not tolerate departure from its platform, and dissident voices are few and compromised.
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If this were true the House wouldn’t be controlled by the Democrats right now. And Pelosi knows it. For the time being the Hyde Amendment is safe.
 
ProVobis said:
Well it’s been 46 years now with a Republican controlled SC so any day now…
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Another fallacy of the left. The SC is neither Republican nor Democrat. It is above parties. The Justices are there to make decisions based on the constitution, not on party politics. Below is a link to explain to you how the Supreme Court works as it appears you are unfamiliar with it’s process.

How Does the U.S. Supreme Court Work? | The Judicial Learning Center

Learn all about the U.S. Supreme Court and its functions from the Judicial Learning Center, St. Louis. Common Core social studies.
judiciallearningcenter.org judiciallearningcenter.org
 
ProVobis said:
The Democratic party does not tolerate departure from its platform, and dissident voices are few and compromised.
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Are you saying that there are enough pro-life Democrats, who have departed from their party’s platform, that it can be said the House has a nominally pro-life majority?

I hope that is the case. There are pro-life Democrats — Dan Lipinski, Heath Shuler (who is no longer in the House), Bart Stupak (ditto). I would have absolutely no problem with voting for a pro-life Democrat, certainly if their opponent were a pro-choice Republican.
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Traditional marriage? He’s in a third objectively invalid marriage to a lapsed Catholic.
Regardless, Trump has said he doesn’t take issue with gay marriage.
 
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Joe says he is against abortion personally but votes for it in actuallity. And that is my point as long as he is part of the party they will have the power that comes with his vote. He needs replaced.

Yes there are pro-choice republicans but abortion is not a plank in the party platform. Yes there are people who think for themselves but not in the democrat party.

So if Joe can’t vote his conscience how will he effect any change. He certainly can’t vote how he thinks or feels. Get rid of Joe.
 
The bishops of the US disagree with you on Trump best reflecting Catholic teaching on immigrants, migrants and refugees.
 
USCCB has received hundreds millions dollars of Govt $$ for refugee programs so their objectivity on the topic is compromised. You can’t fairly assess a Government policy when the Government is paying you hundreds millions to fulfill said policy
 
TARRAT said:
Joe says he is against abortion personally but votes for it in actuallity. And that is my point as long as he is part of the party they will have the power that comes with his vote. He needs replaced.

Yes there are pro-choice republicans but abortion is not a plank in the party platform. Yes there are people who think for themselves but not in the democrat party.

So if Joe can’t vote his conscience how will he effect any change. He certainly can’t vote how he thinks or feels. Get rid of Joe.
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I take it you are from West Virginia. I, too, have deep West Virginia roots, though I only lived there for a short time, many years ago. Long story. When you said “needs replaced”, that tipped me off. God bless West Virginia!

I understand that Joe is hamstrung by his own party, but he is wildly popular in WV, well-liked, a man of the people (he wouldn’t be tolerated by WVns if he weren’t a “man of the people”). Would he lose any of that support if he became a Republican as Governor Jim Justice did? I don’t know. Probably not. (I saw Governor Justice on a TV interview show the other day, little TV station in Summersville that streams online. Impressive man.)
 
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Aquinas11 said:
USCCB has received hundreds millions dollars of Govt $$ for refugee programs so their objectivity on the topic is compromised. You can’t fairly assess a Government policy when the Government is paying you hundreds millions to fulfill said policy
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This is a very libelous thing for a Catholic to write! You imply that the shepherds of the Church - God’s appointed leaders - are so devoid of moral integrity as not to be able to administer a program without being corrupted. Our bishops deserve more respect than that!

As for me, in order to rid this nation of the most corrupt president in its history, I will be voting for whoever is running against Trump.
 
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He is also not out to destroy traditional marriage. Joe Biden who claims to be a practicing Catholic vocally supports abortion, supports gay marriage to the point of conducting one himself.

Once again you have put a uncharitable label on anyone who is married for a third time. President Trump is not Catholic and therefore not held to the same standards we Catholics are as far as marriage.
 
He isn’t wrong though. Think about it. If the USCCB all of the sudden had a 180 reversal on their policies on refugees, Uncle Sam would reverse the grant money to the USCCB. Ergo, the USCCB’s objectivity on the topic is suspect.

If I were a CEO of company “x” and getting subsidies from Uncle Sam I would do and say anything to make sure that subsidiary money keeps comming in.

And it’s only libel if it isn’t true. The USCCB does get money from Uncle Sam. Thats a fact that the USCCB admits on their website.

You also have to remember this is the same USCCB that voted to not investigate the crimes of disgraced former Cardinal McCarrick.
 
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Gee! Can’t I at least wait until the primary? Then I can see who is running in the Republican Primary before I vote.
 
FrancisFan43 said:
He isn’t wrong though. Think about it. If the USCCB all of the sudden had a 180 reversal on their policies on refugees, Uncle Sam would reverse the grant money to the USCCB. Ergo, the USCCB’s objectivity on the topic is suspect.
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Your “ergo” does not follow. It requires that the bishops are motivated primarily by money. As said, that is libelous. Our bishops vowed to devote their lives to the service of Christ - not to mammon. To accuse them of acting otherwise is to accuse them of breaking their religious vows. (Besides, they don’t get the money. They have to spend it on the programs. But even if they did get all the money just for saying that the program is a good thing, it would be libelous to say they have been corrupted by that money.)
 
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Biden is my frontrunner.
I think the nation requires a moderate to heal the nation and a person with some integrity. Our kids should see what that looks like.
 
Maximus1 said:
Biden is my frontrunner.
I think the nation requires a moderate to heal the nation and a person with some integrity. Our kids should see what that looks like.
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Amy Klobuchar would be my choice for a moderate, but it doesn’t look like she has gotten enough recognition to get the nomination. But she and Biden are the most moderate.
 
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