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buffalo
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Find t=0 for each country and find its peak and then the death curve. (remember the US is a big country and t=0 will vary from state to state)
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Victoria33
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Coronavirus may have been in the states quite a bit of time before February, it was in Italy per studying “wastewater”, it was found from being there last December, I thought there was an article for this phenomenon for the US as well.
These waste-water studies suggest the virus may have been around quite a bit of time before it became more prominent. In Italy last December.
These waste-water studies suggest the virus may have been around quite a bit of time before it became more prominent. In Italy last December.
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farronwolf
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Umm, yea, that article was written on April 19.
Here is a link to what is actually happening there currently. They are fixing to do another shutdown.
2:45 P.M. Netanyahu says stricter regulations are necessary
If Israel does not impose stricter regulations, it could find itself with hundreds of hospitalized patients and a health system collapse within weeks, said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at a government meeting, “We are required to take immediate measures in order to prevent more extreme measures down the line.”
Netanyahu also vowed an economic relief package “to help all those affected by the measures we’re enacting.” (Noa Landau)
Here is a link to what is actually happening there currently. They are fixing to do another shutdown.
2:45 P.M. Netanyahu says stricter regulations are necessary
If Israel does not impose stricter regulations, it could find itself with hundreds of hospitalized patients and a health system collapse within weeks, said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at a government meeting, “We are required to take immediate measures in order to prevent more extreme measures down the line.”
Netanyahu also vowed an economic relief package “to help all those affected by the measures we’re enacting.” (Noa Landau)
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buffalo
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I wonder what that data actually shows now superimposed on the date of that paper.Umm, yea, that article was written on April 19.
Here is a link to what is actually happening there currently. They are fixing to do another shutdown.
Here is US allowing for its large geographic area.
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Being that there is about a month long lag time between diagnosed new cases and deaths, we will just have to see how this works out.
But since the case count has drastically increased in the past month and we have close to 50k new cases each day recently, we might well see a drastic increase in death count over the next month. I hope not.
But since the case count has drastically increased in the past month and we have close to 50k new cases each day recently, we might well see a drastic increase in death count over the next month. I hope not.
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Here is NY
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Elizabeth3
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The claim: The coronavirus would weaken “when we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”Please review this list and find fact based, scientific evidence for these statements.
The Atlantic is lying. He clearly didn’t say it would weaken.
"Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days. Nothing is easy, but…he will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone."
The claim: The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”
More spin. I’m not a scientist or anything but I get that, when all the way back in Feb. with the little info we had, many were still hopeful that this would act like other coronaviruses and disappear or greatly lessen in warmer weather. The SARS virus actually did disappear and since this is SARS2, there was great hope that it would act the same. But again. He didn’t lie. He expressed hope that it would disappear.
Context " > Trump, Feb. 10: “And by the way, the virus. … It looks like by April, you know in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away — I hope that’s true. But we’re doing great in our country. China, I spoke with President Xi, and they’re working very, very hard. And I think it’s going to all work out fine. Rough stuff, I tell you, rough, rough stuff. But I think it’s going to work out good. We only have 11 cases, and they’re all getting better."
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The claim: If the economic shutdown continues, deaths by suicide “definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about” for COVID-19 deaths.
Taken in context of his entire statement, he was making a point that we can’t keep things shut down for years or the death toll from suicide could be worse than the virus numbers. But the media lies and states as fact that he said if the shutdown continues we would see suicide numbers that are greater than the virus deaths, conveniently leaving out that he said it in context of shutting down for years when pressed about his plan to begin opening vs staying closed to protect people.
"And we’re going to be practicing everything that — that Deborah is referring to right here. I mean, we’re going to be watching this very closely. But you can’t keep it closed for the next, you know, for years. Okay? This is going away. We’re — we’re going to win the battle, but we also have — you know, you have tremendous responsibility. We have jobs, we have — people get tremendous anxiety and depression, and you have suicides over things like this when you have terrible economies. You have death. Probably and — I mean, definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about with regard to the virus."
I have a family to cook for so given these first three supposed lies weren’t actual lies taken in context but were in fact lies put out by the media in the form of their spin on what he said, I’ll take a pass on combing over all the other false statements in the article. I’ll also listen to the President himself and not let the media tell me what they want me to hear.
Taken in context of his entire statement, he was making a point that we can’t keep things shut down for years or the death toll from suicide could be worse than the virus numbers. But the media lies and states as fact that he said if the shutdown continues we would see suicide numbers that are greater than the virus deaths, conveniently leaving out that he said it in context of shutting down for years when pressed about his plan to begin opening vs staying closed to protect people.
"And we’re going to be practicing everything that — that Deborah is referring to right here. I mean, we’re going to be watching this very closely. But you can’t keep it closed for the next, you know, for years. Okay? This is going away. We’re — we’re going to win the battle, but we also have — you know, you have tremendous responsibility. We have jobs, we have — people get tremendous anxiety and depression, and you have suicides over things like this when you have terrible economies. You have death. Probably and — I mean, definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about with regard to the virus."
I have a family to cook for so given these first three supposed lies weren’t actual lies taken in context but were in fact lies put out by the media in the form of their spin on what he said, I’ll take a pass on combing over all the other false statements in the article. I’ll also listen to the President himself and not let the media tell me what they want me to hear.
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tomarin
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Didn’t he get in trouble a few days ago for saying he was going to slow down or impede testing, because he believed it was testing that was responsible for the outbreak in cases in the south and west? Perhaps you could explain what he meant by that.
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and why they are called fakenews,I have a family to cook for so given these first three supposed lies weren’t actual lies taken in context but were in fact lies put out by the media in the form of their spin on what he said, I’ll take a pass on combing over all the other false statements in the article. I’ll also listen to the President himself and not let the media tell me what they want me to hear.
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buffalo
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Where did you get this news?Didn’t he get in trouble a few days ago for saying he was going to slow down or impede testing, because he believed it was testing that was responsible for the outbreak in cases in the south and west? Perhaps you could explain what he meant by that.
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Elizabeth3
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Oy. He said it at the Tulsa rally…in jest. I heard it. I knew what he meant. I did not at any time take seriously that he told his team to slow down testing because a lot of the spike in US cases is due to increased testing. He was making a point at how the media keeps fear mongering over numbers but never gives a breakdown of what those numbers are overall. They lump those who test positive for the antibody, meaning they are not currently sick, in with the numbers who are currently sick and that makes the numbers inflated as to active cases.
Look. Most of us “unejimicated deplorables” understand what Trump means when he says certain things especially in the context of a rally. When he’s speaking at a rally to his supporters, he’s not trying to be some great statesman with polished speeches. He"s talking like he’d talk around the table in a diner in anywhere USA. He’s shooting the breeze. We know that. We know he’s not trying to give only scientific facts. We know when he pulls the leg of the media and what will make them go crazy with their spin. Whether you agree with it or not, it is what it is. Many of us love him for it. We love him because he’s flawed and unpolished and because the policies he wants to implement line up with our values. Many of us are sick of being talked down to by politicians and media elites. Many of us get nauseated by most of the DC slick, cheesy politicians.
Look. Most of us “unejimicated deplorables” understand what Trump means when he says certain things especially in the context of a rally. When he’s speaking at a rally to his supporters, he’s not trying to be some great statesman with polished speeches. He"s talking like he’d talk around the table in a diner in anywhere USA. He’s shooting the breeze. We know that. We know he’s not trying to give only scientific facts. We know when he pulls the leg of the media and what will make them go crazy with their spin. Whether you agree with it or not, it is what it is. Many of us love him for it. We love him because he’s flawed and unpolished and because the policies he wants to implement line up with our values. Many of us are sick of being talked down to by politicians and media elites. Many of us get nauseated by most of the DC slick, cheesy politicians.
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
BREAKING NEWS: The Mortality Rate for the China Virus in the U.S. is just about the LOWEST IN THE WORLD! Also, Deaths in the U.S. are way down, a tenfold decrease since the Pandemic height (and, our Economy is coming back strong!).
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BREAKING NEWS: The Mortality Rate for the China Virus in the U.S. is just about the LOWEST IN THE WORLD! Also, Deaths in the U.S. are way down, a tenfold decrease since the Pandemic height (and, our Economy is coming back strong!).
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buffalo
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Exactly - Trump haters will never understand. Every word is parsed for a chance at negative exploitation. Have never seen it this bad. Little do they know Trumps understands how this draws out the fakenews and the swamp. What a gift…Look. Most of us “unejimicated deplorables” understand what Trump means when he says certain things especially in the context of a rally.
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Why does the Lamestream Fake News Media REFUSE to say that China Virus deaths are down 39%, and that we now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World. They just can’t stand that we are doing so well for our Country!
Why does the Lamestream Fake News Media REFUSE to say that China Virus deaths are down 39%, and that we now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World. They just can’t stand that we are doing so well for our Country!
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So if I go into the voting booth and vote for all of the other races, but do not vote on the presidential race, I should not complain about anything the president does?When you refuse to vote at all. When you refuse to vote, you are in effect saying you don’t care. So own that position and make no complaints about how the government is being run if it is really how you feel. If not, vote. Simple
Well, just to satisfy you, I will take the time in November to write in a name, although for all practical purposes that is the same as refusing to vote.
But to be very clear, I strongly disagree with you that any of our rights to speech in this country are predicated on whether or not a person votes. Everyone has a right to political speech in this country, that is an one of our absolutes.
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Dr. Scott Atlas disputes COVID-19 fear mongering tactics from our health officials
Furthermore, Dr. Atlas emphasized the fact that the death rates are not going up, despite the increase in cases. “And that’s what really counts, are we getting people who are really sick and dying, and we’re not, and when we look at the hospitalizations, yes, hospitals are more crowded, but that’s mainly due to the re-installation of medical care for non COVID-19 patients.”Dr. Atlas used Texas of an example saying, “90+% of ICU beds are occupied, but only 15% are COVID patients. 85% of the occupied beds are not COVID patients. I think we have to look at the data and be aware that it doesn’t matter if younger, healthier people get infected, I don’t know how often that has to be said, they have nearly zero risk of a problem from this. The only thing that counts are the older, more vulnerable people getting infected. And there’s no evidence that they really are.”
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Catholic teaching is it is a duty to vote.But to be very clear, I strongly disagree with you that any of our rights to speech in this country are predicated on whether or not a person votes.
farronwolf
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99 percent of cases are harmless.
Death rates are down. Fauci warns deaths lag behind cases.
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