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YADA
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There may be DNA related susceptibility to CODID-19
And Blood type
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LeafByNiggle
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That’s wrong thinking. You don’t wear a mask to protect yourself. You wear a mask to protect others from you.
He does when he says that people wear them because they don’t like him.
I listen to what public health experts are saying. They say covid is responsible for the spike in hospitalizations.
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Peeps
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The government already pays for care and medical needs for children who are from poor families.
And they pay for day care (Head Start) for children (I believe this starts at age 2) and public school (all fees for poor children are covered, while kids from families with an adequate income have to pay their own fees).
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Peeps
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Men who are not responsible enough to abstain from sex with a woman that they are not married (or even engaged to) are not likely to be responsible enough to hold down a job and use whatever money they earn to pay for medical expenses for a woman.
I suppose the law could track them down and force them to pay–with what money?! Many of these guys don’t make enough to pay for their own expenses, let alone the expenses of a woman and an unborn child!
I realize that a fairly large percentage of abortions are performed on women who have the means to have their prenatal care and birth expenses covered. I’m not sure that these women WANT a man to “take care of them.” This is one of the reasons why I don’t like to give to “toxic charities” that encourage women to adapt the mantra, “I don’t need a man to help me!” Maybe they don’t need a man, but children need a father.
I believe that a man and woman should only have sex if they are married and that they should be open to life and willing to take on the responsibilities, including financial, of caring for any children that are the result of their lovemaking. I’m pretty certain that those of us who hold that viewpoint are a very tiny number of Americans. And nowadays, even women who are happily married have abortions–the country has fallen for a vile Satanic lie. God help us.
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Peeps
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Yes, I agree.
I do think that many Americans have lost any concept of what a “family” is. The media and the entertainment industry keep hammering it in that a family is any number of people of any age and any gender (or non-gender) who love each other.
Sigh.
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Elizabeth3
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Oh, I know the whole “My mask protects you and your mask protects me” mantra. I wear a mask to increase my personal protection. Studies have shown that surgical masks offer 67% protection for healthcare workers in preventing infection in healthcare settings. I have both cloth masks and surgical masks. I use a cloth mask if I don’t have any surgical masks figuring they are most likely less than 67% protection but more than nothing. Healthcare workers need them to protect themselves AND to protect patients so I don’t really get why they stress that a mask is not personal protection. My guess is that if they do say “your mask protects you and others,” it will give people a false sense of security and then they are less likely to observe distancing and hand-washing which would erase any whatever little boost wearing one may give. I don’t expect or want to depend on other persons decisions to wear a mask to protect me even though I appreciate it if they do. I see my protection of myself as my responsibility.
Well of course in a place that Covid cases are spiking there will also be a corresponding spike in Covid hospitalizations. No one is arguing that. The issue is that you corrected my use of the word partly in reference to covid being the reason for a spike in hospitalizations by saying covid is mostly the result of new hospitalizations. Do you have data that most new hospitalizations are due to Covid?
farronwolf
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Not exactly how you figure that the 75% were better off than before. My mother and father lived through the depression. If folks were better off, it wouldn’t have been called the Great Depression. They would not be called the Greatest Generation.
You might just do some reading on the depression or talk to some of the few people who are still alive who lived through it.
farronwolf
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Yea, I have O type blood and I smoke, which nicotine is supposed to reduce the risk of getting it, but you know what, I still wear my mask in public, wash my hands after touching each of my client files, and social distance. Still have my office closed to the public and am not going out to restaurants since the uptick.
Why, because when the home my 94 year old mother opens up again, I want to go give her a hug and a kiss, that she hasn’t gotten in over 3 months.
I don’t take those precautions for me, I take them for her and everyone else in the home she lives in.
Why, because when the home my 94 year old mother opens up again, I want to go give her a hug and a kiss, that she hasn’t gotten in over 3 months.
I don’t take those precautions for me, I take them for her and everyone else in the home she lives in.
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yankeesouth
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lol I don’t need to read any articles to know to vote for pro life. It’s pretty obvious. The battle lines are pretty clear as the liberal left lays waste to the life teachings of Jesus as depicted in the five Catholic non negotiables. Our Lady said the final battle will be the attack on marriage and the family and it’s pretty obvious we are there now. Abortion, redefinition of marriage, gender ideology…it’s clear as to how Catholics should vote for President Trump.
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YADA
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And my post had nothing to do with masks at all - wearing them nor not wearing them so your reply to me is nonsensical …
LeafByNiggle asserted there was
LeafByNiggle asserted there was
I was merely showing that there is information that offers a DNA connection to COVID-19 and a Blood type connection which while perhaps is not DNA is an inherited trait and not what she claimed in her post … No where is wearing a mask - pro or con - a part of my post
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Peeps
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I can understand this. I think that something like the Finnish system would work–their health care is free and it is very very good, but they are also able to buy into “better plans” if they wish and if they have the income/resources. However, it seems like most regular folks (which I consider myself and my family) would be happy with the “regular health care plan.”
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Peeps
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During my week off a few weeks ago, I spent a lot of time watching documentaries on the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl (which coincided–bummer, right!?)
These documentaries back up what Ridgerunner has said. Yes, 25% of Americans were unemployed, and for farmers in the Great Plains, the Dust Bowl was 10 years of misery, hunger, poverty, sickness, and death.
BUT—some states, like California, were booming big-time. Movies were doing well and the movie industry was employing many people. That meant that all of the supporting industries and businesses (supporting movies) were doing well.
So there was an exodus of Americans into California during this time, and California was advertising for people to move there. The Ken Burns documentary showed film of the line of cars headed into California–it was pretty impressive!
During the Dust Bowl, quite a few of the men in families moved to California to find paying work and sent the money back to their families. Many of these families ended up giving up their Great Plains farm and moving to California to join their men. One of the stories was quite touching–a family of nine children joined their father–when they called him to say they were a mile away, he came running down the road to meet them (hadn’t seen them in a few years), and took them to a house that they thought was “heaven” with all the trees and the rain!
One story was about an old man who had come to California from the Great Plains during the Dust Bowl, and how for the rest of his life, whenever it rained, he would go outside and stand in it and get soaked! He loved the rain so much!
Anyway, there are always people who do well during hard times. I work in a hospital lab, and due to the overtime hours, I’ve been bringing home the biggest paychecks I have ever earned in my life (I’m 63)! We have paid off some big debts with this money, as our expenses have been greatly reduced–all the activities we usually spend money on (like eating out) were no longer open to us!
My daughter, the entertainment professional in NYC, actually has a fairly nice savings account now because she hunkered down and used every scrap of food that she bought, making up new recipes, eating cans of soup that had been in her cupboard for years, and just eating less since she wasn’t doing as much. She didn’t go out to bars or restaurants, and this alone helped her save a lot of money.
And although some businesses, especially restaurants in our city, have closed permanently, others have done very well with take out and drive through.
Anyway, my point is that the Great Depression wasn’t a great depressing time for everyone in the U.S…
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii
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This is where the Democrats keep getting it wrong.
Most people don’t have abortion issues uppermost in their mind when they vote.
The Democrats have to realize how their radical agenda and sneering contempt for anybody who disagrees with them (or for that matter, anybody who didn’t go to college and who works with their hands and goes to Church and actually believes in Christianity) is a major turn off.
More than a turn off . It’s scary.
Or don’t believe this . Believe and say and do whatever you’ve been doing.
I guess it’s just easier to lump people different than you into a basket called deplorable.
farronwolf
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The bulk of the posts of late have had to do with infection rates, death rates, whether we should be doing this or that depending on if one is cherry picking data or not.
So in relation to the current trend in the thread, I was bringing your post into play.
You may feel it nonseniscal, that is your choice.
So in relation to the current trend in the thread, I was bringing your post into play.
You may feel it nonseniscal, that is your choice.
farronwolf
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Hey, did you happen to see the shanty towns that people created when they got to California during the depression in the documentary? Man those folks were living large.
I didn’t say that some people didn’t do better. But to claim 75% of the people during the depression were better off is nonsense.
I am doing fine during this. You are right expenses should be down for most people, but just because I am doing fine, doesn’t mean we should all be ignoring medical experts and praying for the pandemic to last longer. We haven’t begun to see the economic impact of this yet. 3rd and 4th quarters in this country are going to be terrible, because by peoples actions we are dragging this thing out longer and longer than it needs to be.
I didn’t say that some people didn’t do better. But to claim 75% of the people during the depression were better off is nonsense.
I am doing fine during this. You are right expenses should be down for most people, but just because I am doing fine, doesn’t mean we should all be ignoring medical experts and praying for the pandemic to last longer. We haven’t begun to see the economic impact of this yet. 3rd and 4th quarters in this country are going to be terrible, because by peoples actions we are dragging this thing out longer and longer than it needs to be.
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Ridgerunner
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There really were people who were better off. Some peoples’ incomes did not change much or, if they did, they went down less than prices did. My grandfather cut firewood after he lost his farm and delivered it in town; in the alleys of peoples’ homes. He said you would not believe what people threw away; a half a ham, a whole pie, on and on. On the other hand, he limited himself to one meal/day. That cost half his net earnings for the day. It was desperate for many people, but certainly not for all.
He realized there were people with plenty of money. In those days, fresh strawberries were a luxury item. So he rented five acres to raise them. He sold as many as he could raise. So he rented more land, then bought land. And no matter how many he raised, he could sell them all. They were shipped all over. He would deliver them to the railroad in the afternoon, and they would be in the stores in St. Louis, Chicago, Cleveland, wherever, by the time they opened the next morning.
People who could afford them bought them, and there were plenty enough who could.
He realized there were people with plenty of money. In those days, fresh strawberries were a luxury item. So he rented five acres to raise them. He sold as many as he could raise. So he rented more land, then bought land. And no matter how many he raised, he could sell them all. They were shipped all over. He would deliver them to the railroad in the afternoon, and they would be in the stores in St. Louis, Chicago, Cleveland, wherever, by the time they opened the next morning.
People who could afford them bought them, and there were plenty enough who could.
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Ridgerunner
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Depends on what’s in the plan, though, doesn’t it? Around here there are physicians who will treat your whole family for a fairly reasonable monthly “retainer” fee. Most of them are GPs, but there is a multi specialty group in Tulsa that does the same thing.
farronwolf
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Are you assuming I am a democrat?
The silent majority, or moral majority as they used to call themselves, certainly does look predominantly at abortion. Just read through threads on this forum.
Also look into Trump’s strategy and who was advising him when he made the decision to run.
I don’t know anyone who looks down on people who work in trades.
The silent majority, or moral majority as they used to call themselves, certainly does look predominantly at abortion. Just read through threads on this forum.
Also look into Trump’s strategy and who was advising him when he made the decision to run.
I don’t know anyone who looks down on people who work in trades.
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Ridgerunner
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I don’t think anyone here said that. I said 75% were employed and SOME of them were better off than before. If, say, you worked for the government, your salary stayed the same, but prices plummeted. If you looked at old mortgage records for the period, it would jump out at you how far prices dropped.
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Dovekin
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Do you really not see that you are sneering contemptuously with these words?
Do not Republicans have to realize how their sneering contempt is a major turn off?
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