Why Catholics Should Vote for Trump article

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more draing of the swamp:

“Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education,” he tweeted. “Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status and/or Funding, which will be taken away if this Propaganda or Act Against Public Policy continues. Our children must be Educated, not Indoctrinated!”
 
buffalo said:
“Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education,
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Few people seem aware of how horribly our universities have failed. In 2011. Arum and Roksa found that our universities are " characterized by limited or no learning for a large proportion of students…An astounding proportion of students are progressing through higher education today without measurable gains in general skills …looking at … 2,300 students, discovered no statistically significant gains in critical thinking, complex reasoning, and writing skills for at least 45 percent of the students".

So about half of our university students have learned nothing, nothing after 4 years.

Something must be done.
 
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“Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education,” he
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The National Center for Education Statistics compared students from 2003 with those from 1992, it discovered a frightening decline in skills. The “reading proficiency of college graduates has declined in the past decade,” And it’s not just undergraduates. “Only 41 percent of graduate students tested in 2003 could be classified as “proficient” in prose…only 31 percent were classified as proficient“Only 31 percent of college graduates can read a complex book and extrapolate from it.”
 
annem said:
The National Center for Education Statistics compared students from 2003 with those from 1992, it discovered a frightening decline in skills. The “reading proficiency of college graduates has declined in the past decade,” And it’s not just undergraduates. “Only 41 percent of graduate students tested in 2003 could be classified as “proficient” in prose…only 31 percent were classified as proficient“Only 31 percent of college graduates can read a complex book and extrapolate from it.”
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But, they sure have digested revisionist history and how to hate America and for which she stands. BTW, part of the communist plank to takeover America.
 
Do people support Trump in spite of his character or because of his character? Like a hired gun who will do whatever is necessary for their values?
 
Shakuhachi said:
Do people support Trump in spite of his character or because of his character? Like a hired gun who will do whatever is necessary for their values?
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Biden…dementia…complete support for abortion up until birth, plus supports funding abortion, plus in favor of massive, s a $66 billion spending bill which would fund, in spite of Trump’s removal of funds, abortions here in America and…so depressing…fund perhaps millions of babies to be murdered abroad. There are 42 MILLION babies who are slaughtered by abortion every year…plus of course the vile attack on nuns supported by Biden…plus he said not a word as a member of Knights of Columbus was attacked for merely being a member of the Knights…in fact, the Democratic party is now clearly the party that is hostile to the religious person…plus no longer allowing a desperate, devout Catholic who is pregnant, perhaps from rape, to seek out an adoption agency that will only give her baby to practicing Catholics…

Character?
 
TheLittleLady said:
s well as many other immoral things like the death penalty and IVF and enhanced interrogation, etc.
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You do realize that the Church has never said that the death penalty is immoral, correct? It has for hundreds of years been acceptable, when used justly. Applying the death penalty is in and of itself not an intrinsically immoral action, but the Church recently (Holy See) has said its use today is not necessary due to other available options.

Regarding IVF and abortion, those are intrinsically immoral and evil and always sinful.
 
We have many death penalty threads round here. This one does not need another rabbit hole. The doc FCFC lines out the moral issues
 
Yes this. Exactly this. I despise the big government Republicans just as I do the bigger government Democrats. This is why Trump is so hated. He was elected because people are tired of one party. Sure, they run under different names, but in the end, it is them and us. They want to stay where they are and keep their power and their money. Big government and corporate crony Republicans are just as bad as the progressive Democratic liberals. All of them do the same thing, just in different ways. And I believe that the ideals espoused by the Republican party, albeit vastly not implemented once in office, are far far better than the Marxist ideals espoused by the left.
 
You brought it up. Not me. I’m just speaking the truth. Don’t deflect. If Trent Horn, Jimmy Akin, Karlo Broussard among others (all Catholic Answers staff), will all defend justification of the death penalty, I cannot let you say it is immoral.

Edit: Catholic Answers Magazine May-June 2017 pp 24-29. I quote, “The Catholic Church has long supported the right of the state to inflect the death penalty on persons who commit extremely serious crimes. In recent decades, however, popes and other Church leaders increasingly have narrowed what they see as the scope of the death penalty’s legitimate application—so much so that the second edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church adopts Pope St. John Paul II’s judgment from his encyclical Evangelium Vitae that instances where capital punishment is necessary “are very rare, if non existent.””
— By Gerald Korson

So, can we put this to bed please. If it was intrinsically evil, it could have never, ever been supported by the Church, ever. It is clear it was, and it is clear by even the small possibility it could be used, that it is not immoral when used justly.
 
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TheLittleLady said:
his means I will not vote for someone who is going to promote the death penalty.
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Every year, a small number of people die from the death penalty, which I, also oppose.

However, Biden and the Democratic party support and will fund millions - yes, millions - of babies murdered by abortion . Right now, the murderous Democrats are trying to pass i a $66 billion spending bill which would fund, in spite of Trump’s removal of funds, abortions here in America and pay for likely millions of babies to be murdered abroad. There are 42 MILLION babies who are slaughtered by abortion every year

Earlier, you seemed so passionate in your support for Biden’s abortion stance.

Why?
 
Yes, so you and I must be part of a Church filled with humans, who have opinions. This is not a matter of dogma. We have the ability to support the bishops who it and an ability to support the bishops who do not, thus we can BOTH be faithful Catholics in this regard.
 
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