Why is Islam wrong?

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AbeOman said:
2- The moment holy books were sent down, people started distorting and making up things in them.
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Which parts of the Bible are distortions, and which still carry the original message?
AbeOman said:
3- So why didn’t Allah preserve these books? so that these people will have no excuse after the Qur’an was sent down and preserved…?
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That’s a non-sequiter
AbeOman said:
4- Hence, the Torah (Old Testament) and the Injil (New Testament (Gospel) were temporary books sent down to specific people in a specific time,
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Yet you would argue with me that the OT’s God is the same God as in the NT and ask why I don’t follow the passages in the OT about slaughtering people.

Secondly, your finding (the books are temporary) is based on circular logic - that the koran is rigtht because it is.
 
hamba2han said:
We need to examine the words of Jesus (pbuh) as recorded in the Bible.

The above is an excerpt (with slight modifications) from this webpage.
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Dear Hamba2han,

You (or maybe the author you are quoting) are taking Jesus’ word in several occations talking about several issues out of the respective context, and combine those together. That should be the approach of a lawyer to some legal documents. The approach of a Christian with respect to the bible is not that way.
 
ISLAMis4REAL said:
Listen mate, i am not a suicide bomber or something just listen 2 wat i have w say.
Islam is a realigion which promotes PEACE, and JIHAD in actual fact has been wrongly interpreted by the media and people with low knowledge. Islam doesn’t allow killings of the innocent. Believe me and i am a muslim, what ever u hear about islam in the english media most of the times is wrong.
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Jihad means struggle. It can mean struggle by many means - including an ‘internal’ struggle with your own faith. However, Jihad can also mean war. When the media says Moslem violence is part of their Jihad, they are correct.

As for your ‘images’ there are heaps on-line of pics of Jesus in toast, etc.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

Islam is principally right:
  1. in having Jesus not killed, a cursed killing on Cross
  2. and since Jesus escaped getting killed on Cross therefore he was not resurrected literally from dead
  3. He also did not ascend to skies
  4. In stead JesusYeshuaIssa died a natural and peaceful death in India.
  5. Since getting killed a cursed death on Cross has no real relationship with sins and hence no role in salvation
There is no compulsion in believing the above; only if you are convinced heart and soul.

Thanks
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Why do you keep saying your single claim and untested ProphetMessiah 1805-1912 writing is more correct. Can you open to the world to analyze the Quran and your ProphetMessiah writing as rigorously as the bible has endured? We, the Christian open our bible to be analyzed by anybody in any scientific, historical, and in whatever mean people can imagine. We allow the world to come into whatever decision/conclusion it may come out with. Can the world do the same to your Quran and PropheetMessiah writing? I am afraid that you say OK but others say NO. Some will say WELCOME, some will give death threat.
 
ISLAMis4REAL said:
Listen mate, i am not a suicide bomber or something just listen 2 wat i have w say.
Islam is a realigion which promotes PEACE, and JIHAD in actual fact has been wrongly interpreted by the media and people with low knowledge. Islam doesn’t allow killings of the innocent. Believe me and i am a muslim, what ever u hear about islam in the english media most of the times is wrong.

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Dear friends, you are right. I always have a presumption of innosence to people, including to you. You don’t have to say your phrase I quoted and highlighted. We are exchanging ideas in this forum, not threats.🙂 🙂 May peace of God be with you and your family.
 
paarsurrey said:
Islam is principally right:
  1. in having Jesus not killed, a cursed killing on Cross
  2. and since Jesus escaped getting killed on Cross therefore he was not resurrected literally from dead
  3. He also did not ascend to skies
The third point especially caught my eye. In the Qur’an, Soorat an-Nisaa 4:158 (i.e. the “aya” that comes immediately after the famous passage denying the crucifixion), it states rather plainly about Jesus that rafa`ahu Allaahu ilayhi, “God raised him to Himself”. If Jesus did not rise from the dead, and he did not ascend into heaven, what do you think that phrase means? Classical Muslim exegetes argue that it means that Jesus literally rose into jannah (by the power of God). If one rejects that, then what is left? Resurrection? It seems to me that either your second or third point is at odds with the plain meaning of the Qur’an.

Wa’l-MaseeHu `alim!
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NewAbdalMaseeh said:
The third point especially caught my eye. In the Qur’an, Soorat an-Nisaa 4:158 (i.e. the “aya” that comes immediately after the famous passage denying the crucifixion), it states rather plainly about Jesus that rafa`ahu Allaahu ilayhi, “God raised him to Himself”. If Jesus did not rise from the dead, and he did not ascend into heaven, what do you think that phrase means? Classical Muslim exegetes argue that it means that Jesus literally rose into jannah (by the power of God). If one rejects that, then what is left? Resurrection? It seems to me that either your second or third point is at odds with the plain meaning of the Qur’an.

Wa’l-MaseeHu `alim!
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paarsurrey not a ‘typical’ Moslem, but an Ahmadist… which I’m to understand is a group that many Moslems don’t count as part of Islam
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

Islam is principally right:
  1. in having Jesus not killed, a cursed killing on Cross
  2. and since Jesus escaped getting killed on Cross therefore he was not resurrected literally from dead
  3. He also did not ascend to skies
  4. In stead JesusYeshuaIssa died a natural and peaceful death in India.
  5. Since getting killed a cursed death on Cross has no real relationship with sins and hence no role in salvation
There is no compulsion in believing the above; only if you are convinced heart and soul.

Thanks
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It’s right because it is!

Why did your god cause people to believe he’d been killed? Why does your god deceive people?
 
Christianity started from the muslim prophet ISA which is also known as JESUS in english. He was a only one of the 124 000 prophets that allah sent to the mankind to guide them to the right path.

Islams says when jews went to kill Jesus 1 entered the house at first and the rested entered after a while. At that point jesus was raised to the heavens and the jew which entered at first was turned into a lookalike of jesus by the power of God.
The Jews then crusified one of their own thinking he was Jesus when in fact he was one of their own.

“ALLAH HAS CHALLENGED MANKIND TO CREATE A PASSAGE LIKE THE QURAN AND SO FAR NO ONE HAS EVER SUCCEEDED, AND NO ONE WILL”
 
The ones who say WELCOME are CORRECT and on the right path

The ones who give death threat are WRONG and islam doesn’t allow it

as simple as that
 
ISLAMis4REAL said:
Islam says when jews went to kill Jesus 1 entered the house at first and the rested entered after a while. At that point jesus was raised to the heavens and the jew which entered at first was turned into a lookalike of jesus by the power of God.
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First of all, the Qur’an does not state this elaborate substitution theory, and I’m not sure it is even in Imaam Bukhaaree’s Saheeh. Admittedly, later Muslim exegetes pushed this view, even naming specifically Yahutha (Judas) as the one who got substituted. But it is far from a unanimous position in Islam, and all such traditions are very late, and thus hard to take seriously.
ISLAMis4REAL said:
ALLAH HAS CHALLENGED MANKIND TO CREATE A PASSAGE LIKE THE QURAN AND SO FAR NO ONE HAS EVER SUCCEEDED, AND NO ONE WILL
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Many have touched on this issue before. The question that needs to be asked is the following: if this challenge is to be taken seriously, we need to know before-hand what the criteria are. How would you know if a passage met the challenge or not? What are the standards it has to meet?
 
What is wrong with islam…You know I was just thinking that the other day…I just can’t seem to get past that False Religion thing.
 
ISLAMis4REAL said:
You always see plants shaping up to show allahs name.
http://www.islamisgrowing.com/index_files/08.gif

You always see clouds forming allahs name
http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/im_blog/may15_allah_clouds.jpg

Which means Alllah is the creator of allah, if he wasn’t why don’t u see the plants forming to show the name of some other god.

I CHALLENGE ALL NON-MUSLIMS TO SHOW ME ONE PICTURE THAT SHOWS NATURE FORMING THE NAME OF THEIR GOD.
ans= there is non except allah
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John 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

This is in the BIBLE, the only book that contains the TRUE word of God!
 
ISLAMis4REAL said:
You always see plants shaping up to show allahs name.
http://www.islamisgrowing.com/index_files/08.gif

You always see clouds forming allahs name
http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/im_blog/may15_allah_clouds.jpg

Which means Alllah is the creator of allah, if he wasn’t why don’t u see the plants forming to show the name of some other god.

I CHALLENGE ALL NON-MUSLIMS TO SHOW ME ONE PICTURE THAT SHOWS NATURE FORMING THE NAME OF THEIR GOD.
ans= there is non except allah
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This is an image of Mary, this is what you would call a true miracle.
This was seen by THOUSANDS of people in an Islamic country, Egypt.
Now there are MILLIONS of plants, cloud formations and natural occurances that happen on this earth, those 3 pictures you show does not mean Al-lah is real.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/vmary1.jpg
 
Hmm islam? I imagine that one of the Israelites got drunk and misinterpreted what happen that day when mosses came down from the mountain. Must of heard mosses and thought it was Muhammad.
 
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