Balance? more moral relativism? Catholicism is not a democracy, and Christ’s teachings cannot be changed to suit the times…
That is correct – some things are wrong for all time, in all places.
Really? Do you really think there are Catholics who routinely discriminate on the basis of color (race is really an oxymoron), or gender? Do you think opposing gay marriage is discriminitory? As to capital punishment, there have been a number of threads on that issue and invariably the Catholics are either totally opposed or agree ONLY in the most extreme circumstances. I hardly think that is “little difficulty supporting” capital punishment. Same with “little difficulty supporting” war or weapons proliferation. I see most people with a valid concern about their own and their family’s security. No one wants a war but most of us do want to be safe. We can disagree with what steps need to be taken but because one person is more cautious and prefers to err on the side of being overprepared, does not mean they are just itching to take up arms and fight.
I see none on the right on this thread who would fit that description. There are some on the left who constantly claim recourse to “social justice”, which can mean almost anything, and place the moral law as secondary to secular social work programs.
I think they practice Situational Ethics (although many wouldn’t admit it.) And I never saw anyone apply Situational Ethics to a moral dilemma and fail to find that the most moral course of action was to do exactly what he wanted to do, anyway.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon10.gif
Sorry. I can’t comprehend this. Must be a thought experiment.
Every hear of Rainbow Sash?
Yep, that is true. IMO, what some on the left do is to combine truth and error, while never publicly denying the truth. It is the most prevalent heresy around and the most insidious. It is everywhere and very hard to pin down.
Last I checked, the Judicial branch was part of the federal government and they have been creating law in opposition to their constitutional duties.
katherine2 said:
This assumption that those that call bad things bad are simple-minded and that all bad things must be analyzed unceasingly from 50 angles to understand everyone’s background in order to truly know whether it is bad - is simply not true. Some things are bad - good people do bad things sometimes - that’s why we all need a saviour.
No. But I poked around on the link you provided, and while a found a lot of garbage, I found nothing which indicated a Catholic supported same sex sacramental marriage. Is more of the “well, I’m in the general ballpark” sort of discussion?
Nuance – I think it means “big hair.” At least John Kerry kept talking about it. http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon10.gif
You may disagree with me, but I take some time and care to choose my words. YOUR statement was that sodomy is not a matter under current congressional review.
I want you to have a good marriage as well. You suggest that I am somehow hurting the Catholic faith (and in the way I read you, in the objective sense, not just in your private opinion) by stating my position – namely that while I do not beleive in same sex marriage, either sacramentally nor civil – given that under the status quo civil and sacramental marriage do not match up, I don’t think that Catholics who accept some other change in the civil contrustion are objectively guilty of any dissent of the sacramental teaching of the Church.
Yes. Well, our Lord can give sight to the blind. Let us pray.
Absolutely.
Yes but this is more an effect of proper marriage, not its purpose. It’s purpose is pro-creation and sanctification of both spouses. Men benefit as much as women.
Maybe the fact that he was boasting turned you off. However, I disagree. Why should an unmarried man be able to assign government benefits to anyone? The reason that spouses should be allowed medical care on the other spouse’s health plan is the assumption that they are caring for the family and therefore, they may not have sufficient means to provide such care for themselves or their children. This is a specific benefit for those that are committed to one another in marriage and presumably pro-creating, not a bonus cafeteria benefit to be used however one chooses. Now, if you suggest that military pay or benefits themselves should be better, I would not argue with you.
No doubt about it.
??? No one is changing Christ’s teachings. As Catholics we pursue a holistic understanding of the Gospel message by upholding social justice for all.
No one is free from error or sin – but there is a trend in some circles to justify things that are seriously wrong by interposing a vague doctine of “social justice” and advaming the proposittion that it somehow outweighs serious evils like widespread abortion.
The group regularly attends mass wearing bright-colored rainbow sashes to proclaim the goodness of their homosexuality and demands communion. They openly disagree with Catholic authority when they speak against homosexual marriage and they openly support homosexual marriage and belief the Church should recognize it as such. Not in the general ballpark - standing at home plate. And this is just the beginning. You can cover your eyes and ears but that doesn’t stop it from happening.
