There was no need to dig out my very old posts which were written under the bad circumstances. The Catholics here have not mentioned why I wrote all that. There were some abusive posters, perhaps non-Catholics. The Catholics were quiet.
I’ve followed this thread on and off for a bit. I was unable to post for a short bit due to an unfortunate misunderstanding, just because I post now does not mean I am unaware of what has already come to past. The very fact that you choose to respond to me and not one of the others perhaps shows that you believe you have some hope in convincing me. Maybe you do, but my questions to you are like the ones which have gone before. Irregardless of “circumstances” you either need to back up your arguments, or admit you were in error when you said things. If you admit you are in error you must go back to the point which brought you to error and give an argument from there. No one on here can make you write something, short of someone with moderator access maliciously editing your post (given that the mods are all Catholic and there are a number of very anti-Catholic posts that go unedited, I shall conclude they are above this sort of abuse).
So I mentioned the Da vinci Code. If there was anything wrong, they should blame Leonardo or Dan Brown. Not me. I did not write da Vinci Code.
The DaVinci code is a work of fiction, and has never been held to be anything more. There have been conspiracy theories from time to time which have asserted the idea that Jesus was married, however none of these are what you brought up. Additionally Leonardo DaVinci has nothing to do with these fables. By attaching his name to it you show your own ignorence on the subject, and reveal your attack to be nothing but a hasty strawman
There had been a member here Ben Masada who virtually proved that Mary Magd was the wife of Jesus. I tell you that you have problems at hand. So it is better to see the log in your eyes before trying to see a straw in the eyes of Muhammad. That was the advice of Jesus to you all. You better follow that advice.
I’m familiar with this member, and I don’t think much of his posts, to be quite honest, he has a habit of taking things out of context, even as you do. The verse you reference tells us not to judge the imperfections of others, something which is reserved for god alone. It is not a commandment to cease discernment. If Mohammad claims to be a prophet I must look at him to discern whether he is or not. If he is not he and his teachings must be thrown by the wayside. The fact that he blatently contradicted his own teachings at times because God told him it was ok leads me to discern that he is not a prophet. What his fate is, that I can not judge.
I have said that I believe in Jesus as the prophet (Messenger) of God. He himself said that Someone had sent him. I believe that. I can never abuse Jesus. And to say that he was not God is not abuse at all. Also to say that he did not die an undesirable death on the Cross is also no abuse. All Muslims believe that Jesus is not God. All Muslims believe that Jesus did not die on the Cross. It is not me only.
You have already “abused” him several times in this very post! Particularly in what I shall go into more fully on the next bit:
I also did not believe that Jesus got married to Mary Magd. Jesus is your God. you do not want your God to be married. That is upto you. Please yourself. I am with you. But do not abuse others from some doubtful writings. Because then you will have to face other writings i.e. excellent investigation of the very learned man Leonardo. He was genious and a christian too. That is all your problem. Go fight with him or fight with Dan Brown.
But you just said one of this forums own esteemed members “virtually proved it”, why would you even bring that up if you yourself are unconvinced? That is an abuse! You argue your polemics by trying to put doubt into your opponent, even when they are in agreement with you! It would be like me trying to prove Catholics wrong by arguing against the Real Presence! If my priest found out I made such an argument I have no doubt he would withold the eucharist from me until I confessed, repented, and served a penance. I wonder how the leaders of your mosque would react to seeing you argue what they clearly believe to be heretical?
We Muslim respect Jesus. We believe in him as the man of God. You do nothing of the sort. You do not believe that Muhammad was a man of god. You do not believe that he was a good man. So compare your condition.
You respect Christ as a Hindu respects God. Your respect is a denegration in our eyes, as the Hindu respect of God (and I mean the One God) is a denegration in yours.
Also we believe that bible is a revealed book. That only some parts of it have been modified (or corrupted). Not all the bible is corrupted. But you do not believe that Quran is a revealed book. So please see where you stand. And still you blame the Muslims.
Of course I don’t believe the Quran is a revealed book, it flat out contradicts both the Bible and Holy Tradition, which is also why I believe Muhammad is a false prophet.
I have nothing against Jesus or Moses or Abraham or King David or King Soloman. But I may have something against the bad posters here. So keep up your good work. I believe in the Torah and the bible as the revealed books and I love Moses and Jesus…
If I thought believing that the Torah and the Bible were revealed books was good enough I would have remained a protestant. The Bible is only, and has only ever been, a part of what we believe. No book by its nature can contain the entirety of a religion.
Now I ask you, instead of responding to anything I’ve said, respond to those who have asked you the more pressing and central questions.
My post above #300 - **correction **- I was typing so fast because my dogs were trying to get my attention to take them out for their afternoon walk.
<— would you like some while you are waiting?
Would you explain this part of your post please?