Why we are left alone with Devils?

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STT said:
Yes, but my thought is not my thought so what I do is what Demons like.
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But you would have to surrender your will and your thoughts to these demons in order for them to have any control. It became a choice at some point and continues to be, through temptations and manipulations. This is why we need prayer, confession, and each other.
 
Techno2000 said:
Well then God couldn’t hold you responsible for anything if you didnt know what you were doing, and the Demons would be wasting their time.
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So what is the purpose? Demons are wasting their time. We are suffering in the middle for no purpose. Etc. Why God hold us under such a condition? This is a valid question since one cannot argue that we are here to be tested since as you argued test loses its meaning under such a circumstances.
 
STT said:
So what is the purpose? Demons are wasting their time. We are suffering in the middle for no purpose. Etc. Why God hold us under such a condition? This is a valid question since one cannot argue that we are here to be tested since as you argued test loses its meaning under such a circumstances.
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Demons aren’t wasting their time…if much is given, much is expected …if little is given, little is expected.
 
STT said:
That was who conclude that Demons are wasting their time.
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Well you said…" Demons can make you wish you something, tempt you such that you cannot recognize that the wish is yours, therefore they can manipulate your thoughts also."…so do you believe that Demons can turn someone into a brain dead Zombie ?
 
Techno2000 said:
Well you said…“Demons can make you wish you something, tempt you such that you cannot recognize that the wish is yours, therefore they can manipulate your thoughts also.”…so do you believe that Demons can turn someone into a brain dead Zombie ?
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To conclude I need to see that you agree with my quote (bold part). If yes then they can turn someone into a brain dead Zombie. If no we can discuss this issue further.
 
STT said:
To conclude I need to see that you agree with my quote (bold part). If yes then they can turn someone into a brain dead Zombie. If no we can discuss this issue further.
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I think they might have the power to do this,but your Guardian Angel would prevent this from happening.
 
STT said:
First, we are talking about Demons. Second, do you believe that they could **tempt **(something that we think we wish but it is what they manipulate) us? If yes, this means that they have access to our mind?
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No of course not. Anyone who hears voices or thinks his thoughts are being manipulated should see his doctor.

There are people on the internet who have those delusions, and they post on forums and convince each other the delusions are real. They explain their feelings as demons. Or aliens, Or the CIA. Or the evil eye. Or a neighbor with a thought ray machine. Because to them the manipulation is real, not delusional. Anyone who hears voices or thinks his thoughts are being manipulated should see his doctor.
 
Techno2000 said:
I think they might have the power to do this,but your Guardian Angel would prevent this from happening.
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Therefore they cannot manipulate our minds unless our Guardian Angels allow. That doesn’t make sense either.
 
inocente said:
No of course not. Anyone who hears voices or thinks his thoughts are being manipulated should see his doctor.

There are people on the internet who have those delusions, and they post on forums and convince each other the delusions are real. They explain their feelings as demons. Or aliens, Or the CIA. Or the evil eye. Or a neighbor with a thought ray machine. Because to them the manipulation is real, not delusional. Anyone who hears voices or thinks his thoughts are being manipulated should see his doctor.
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So you don’t believe in spiritual reality and God?
 
STT said:
I have encounter to Devils and I found them very strong. They could manipulate our thoughts and feelings. They could even control our mind if they wish! So I was wondering that why God left us alone with Devils? What is the purpose?
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We are never alone. God is standing right beside us through all our trials and tribulations.
 
Bookcat said:
Such language is more from science-fiction.

Do we get tempted by them? Yes.

And from other things too…

But I would not use that term there.

Stuff of movies. Not reality.
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How they could tempt us if they could not manipulate our minds? You think that what you wish is what you wish but in fact what you wish is not more than a temptation.
 
STT said:
Therefore they cannot manipulate our minds unless our Guardian Angels allow. That doesn’t make sense either.
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The deeper one gets into things like Voodoo, the stronger the power of the Demons get over that soul.If God permits, they can possess that person.
 
STT said:
How they could tempt us if they could not manipulate our minds? You think that what you wish is what you wish but in fact what you wish is not more than a temptation.
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If the Demons were making someone do things that were not ones true wishes, then God would not hold that person responsible.
 
Techno2000 said:
The deeper one gets into things like Voodoo, the stronger the power of the Demons get over that soul.If God permits, they can possess that person.
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So why God allows them to tempt us to the degree that we fail and sin? What is the point?
 
STT said:
So why God allows them to tempt us to the degree that we fail and sin? What is the point?
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Because He gave Angels free will…some chose evil just like some humans chose evil… I don’t see the problem…He let’s it knowing He can bring greater good from even the worst of all evils (Such as the Death and Resurrection of Jesus Himself)…
 
Roseeurekacross said:
I guess in answering, it would be good to know your belief system ? Your religion , or not.

I can answer from the Truth and teaching of Jesus Christ, and God.
However , to have an answer you might understand, dictates where I would start.
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STT
Did you answer and I missed the answer?
 
Roseeurekacross said:
STT
Did you answer and I missed the answer?
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I am sorry that I missed your post.
Roseeurekacross said:
I guess in answering, it would be good to know your belief system ? Your religion , or not.
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I don’t have a fixed system of belief. I stick with a system of belief as far as it opens my eyes wider and present me a new point view. I leave the old system of belief
and chase for a new one in order to have a coherent view of what I am facing to, the struggle to find the truth. And I am troubled with the fact that I don’t know what is the meaning.

I don’t think that my religion should matter. What is matter is that your answer makes sense.
Roseeurekacross said:
I can answer from the Truth and teaching of Jesus Christ, and God.
However , to have an answer you might understand, dictates where I would start.
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I am familiar with some of those answers. God allows Devils to do evil for greater good! This kind of answer does not make any sense to me. I am open to hear your answer.
 
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