Why We Need the New Lynching Memorial

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He won’t answer that. I already asked him a question in the same vein, and he’s ignored it.
 
Discriminating solely on the basis of race is racist. Such discrimination is often the behavioral consequence of prejudiced attitudes toward members of a specific race. That is not the same as excluding other races in memorials designed to honor the memory of a single race of people who were unjustly murdered, just as excluding non-Catholics from taking Communion is not regarded as racist
 
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We are waiting your reply on the monuments to Holocaust and Armenian genocide victims.

Are these monuments racist since they leave out entire groups?
 
“I wanna be a racist, but I don’t wanna be called one.”
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
“I wanna be a racist, but I don’t wanna be called one.”
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It isn’t PC to call someone a bigot or a racist. It hurts their feelings. Wasn’t there a thread about that somewhere on the forums? I have a vague memory of something along those lines. 😏
 
I asked, because the conversation made me curious.

Since all of Russia was part of the Soviet Union, how can you say they are not one of the same? There isn’t one inch of Russia that wasn’t Soviet.
 
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So the Whites who were also lynched were also killed because of the color of their skin?
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That’s what you’ve been asked, and haven’t bothered to answer.
If you actually have a case, you’ll be able to present comparative numbers & causes.

We’ll wait.
 
HolySpirit said:
Does Russia have any monuments for their many genocides?
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Are we talking about Russia, or the USSR? Within the current territory of Russia there are some memorials at former gulags, and a gulag museum in Moscow. And a memorial to the victims killed when soldiers opened fire on a labor strike in Novocherkassk. And probably many smaller memorials for different events throughout the USSR. It is a tendency of present-day Russian officials to sweep the more unpleasant parts of Soviet history under the rug, but there are memorials out there and it’s not fair to say they don’t exist at all. And of course there are memorials in other former territories of the USSR for various events.

In any case, though, atrocities are usually memorialized by the victims and their descendants. One group of victims (or their descendants) creating a memorial for what happened to them does not negate the fact that bad things, even similarly bad things, may have happened to others.
 
Part is still part. Germany was the Holy Roman Empire and vice versa.

The Confederate States of America are still the United States of America.

They are all part of people’s history and culture. Just because they may be unpleasant doesn’t mean that they are not always a part of who we are.
 
Well…seeing as black people couldn’t even drink out of the same water fountain as a white person just over 50 years ago I don’t think it’s asking too much to have a memorial for lynching them as well
 
What memorials have been erected that reflect white American’s priorities?
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The Washington Monument comes to mind. So does Mount Rushmore.
 
Peebo said:
Well…seeing as black people couldn’t even drink out of the same water fountain as a white person just over 50 years ago I don’t think it’s asking too much to have a memorial for lynching them as well
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Let’s be cautious about the width of our brush stroke there. That was a very real issue, but mostly limited to the Jim Crow south and not the whole country.
 
Hmmm…🤔
I thought those reflected Americans, not whites.
But of course, the next comment will probably be that Mount Rushmore is full of white Americans.
 
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All the US Presidents were white at the time Mt. Rushmore was sculpted. Maybe now they can add President Obama if there is still enough rock left.
 
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Fair enough. Liberals are demonized on here too as brainwashed imposing evil overly sensitive social justice warriors. I am open to considering others perspective. I don’t see how white privilege doesn’t exist or how memorializing lynchings are somehow racist towards whites who were lynched.
 
I think adding Obama to Mouth Rushmore as if that makes up for American history would only be further reflecting “white American priorities.” Not to mention Obama himself is hardly a radical figure, having contributed so much to the destabilisation of Africa and the Middle East.
 
I think at this point, no one should be added to Mount Rushmore. It’s an icon as is, it should be left alone.
 
I don’t actually expect anything to happen to it, and ideally it would be destroyed along with the USA as a nation-state. My point was just that all of these traditional historical monuments represent “white priorities.” The US is, after all, a nation founded on racism and white supremacy.
 
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