WSJ: Cohen paid porn star through private LLC created just weeks before election

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ConstantLearner:
What’s he done to support Catholic moral teaching other than say he’s pro-life?
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Ask the Little Sisters of the Poor. Thank you for demonstrating that Trump supporters are far, far more willing to acknowledge his flaws than his opponents are his virtues.
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I wonder how you would all feel about a universal single payer system. Up here in Canada, you don’t get to exclude yourself from paying into the public system just because the public system funds abortions or assisted suicide. And you should consider this, because I suspect some sort of single payer system is coming to the US within a few years. As the Democrats veer leftwards, Medicare-for-all is going to be their rallying cry, and that means you’ll likely be paying for someone’s contraceptives or even abortions, because your money is going to be pooled.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Ok, so give me an example of where adultery is not sinful.
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Man and wife have plane crash in jungle. Man cannot find wife despite searching and becomes absolutely convinced she died. He remarries ten years later, but wife is actually alive, living with a tribe in the jungle. Objectively, he committed adultery. Subjectively, he didn’t.

Orthodox man, having exhausted all counseling, etc, consents to wife’s filing divorce. In his church, one can remarry after one divorce (actually more than one). So he does remarry after his priest approves it, absolutely convinced he is able to remarry. Objectively, he’s committing adultery. Subjectively, he isn’t.
 
niceatheist said:
I wonder how you would all feel about a universal single payer system. Up here in Canada, you don’t get to exclude yourself from paying into the public system just because the public system funds abortions or assisted suicide. And you should consider this, because I suspect some sort of single payer system is coming to the US within a few years. As the Democrats veer leftwards, Medicare-for-all is going to be their rallying cry, and that means you’ll likely be paying for someone’s contraceptives or even abortions, because your money is going to be pooled.
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I’m all for a single payer system.
 
When adultery was still illegal (for divorce filing, etc.) I believe demonstrating adulterous conduct was enough. Just sayin’
 
In most countries, “single payer” is actually 'two tier care". There is the Medicaid-like government system and a private system people pay for themselves or through private insurance. In France, for example, it’s about 2/3 government and 1/3 private. Needless to say, the private system is the better of the two.

Things like that also skew the “cost of care” in any country-by-country comparison, since they don’t all count the same things or in the same way. Nobody knows, for example, what the cost per capita is of the private medical systems.
 
ConstantLearner said:
Trump supporters would just say that’s Photoshopped.
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I’m not aware of Trump voters broadly denying his ‘sins’

Trump supporters just hired him to get other stuff done, not be their role model.
And are a bit shocked at how Puritan liberals have recently become.
 
Ridgerunner said:
In most countries, “single payer” is actually 'two tier care". There is the Medicaid-like government system and a private system people pay for themselves or through private insurance. In France, for example, it’s about 2/3 government and 1/3 private. Needless to say, the private system is the better of the two.
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It isn’t in Canada. To the best of my knowledge, most Canadians don’t want to abandon their system in favor of a US-style system.
 
Inisfallen said:
It isn’t in Canada. To the best of my knowledge, most Canadians don’t want to abandon their system in favor of a US-style system.
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I do not blame them. Do you have good dental insurance, too? In the US, dental insurance does not pay for a lot, in my experience, unless you buy your own plan as opposed to an employer-paid one. They usually have an annual cap of $1,500. People can buy plans with no annual cap, but they still have to pay 50% out-of-pocket for the expensive stuff.
 
ConstantLearner said:
I do not blame them. Do you have good dental insurance, too? In the US, dental insurance does not pay for a lot, in my experience, unless you buy your own plan as opposed to an employer-paid one. They usually have an annual cap of $1,500. People can buy plans with no annual cap, but they still have to pay 50% out-of-pocket for the expensive stuff.
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I don’t think Canadians have national dental insurance.

I’m not a Canadian, but I’m married to one. She’s horrified by the US health care system. It is difficult, compared to theirs. Especially when you’ve got a few kids, and especially when someone in the family has had some significant out-of-the-ordinary health issues.
 
Inisfallen said:
It isn’t in Canada. To the best of my knowledge, most Canadians don’t want to abandon their system in favor of a US-style system
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That’s my understanding as well. However, it is also my understanding there are two or more tier systems on the European continent. If I had to guess what the U.S. will end up with, it will be a two-tier system. The government one will be “Medicaid with deductibles” and the other one will be the one people will pay for if they can.
 
ConstantLearner said:
In the US, dental insurance does not pay for a lot, in my experience, unless you buy your own plan as opposed to an employer-paid one. They usually have an annual cap of $1,500. People can buy plans with no annual cap, but they still have to pay 50% out-of-pocket for the expensive stuff.
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Yes, my dental insurance is not great. It’s better than nothing, of course, but it doesn’t come close to covering costs the way my health insurance does.

I’ve got my wife and kids on the plan. Believe me, the expenses add up when kids need regular checkups. No work yet, they’re too young (one doesn’t even have more than a couple of teeth yet), but I’m dreading the day when they may need braces and stuff like that.
 
My dental insurance is pretty good as far as dental insurance goes, but like you, I still pay a hefty out-of-pocket bill. Dental care, in the US, is getting to be for only the rich, or the almost-rich.
 
Dentistry is now going implants. Come with screws and you’re all set. 🙂
 
Inisfallen said:
It isn’t in Canada. To the best of my knowledge, most Canadians don’t want to abandon their system in favor of a US-style system.
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Canada does have private clinics. They aren’t supposed to offer the services provide by public care, but many do. Obviously they have shorter wait times.
 
Supplementary health insurance is allowed. They cover dental, eye care and prescription costs, things not covered by the government. The premiums are quite costly for many.
Strangely though, abortion on demand is covered by taxpayers’ money.
 
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Some do. Al Mohler, the President of the largest Southern Baptist seminary and a very influential leader in the Convention, has been a consistent vocal critic of Trump since day one. He’s not the only Evangelical leader to do criticize Trump’s morality. He didn’t vote for either Clinton or Trump. In fact, this week, he blasted the Republican Missouri governor for calling his adultery a ‘mistake’. To paraphrase Mohler: it’s not a ‘mistake’, that’s moral deflection, the real word is SIN.
It’s people like Mohler that give me hope for American evangelicalism. I’ve noticed the leaders and pastors most enthusiastic for Trump are the ones who talk the least about or associated with theological issues and discussions. Those who are more theologically minded, like Mohler, are either strongly critical or holding their noses.
 
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