WSJ: Cohen paid porn star through private LLC created just weeks before election

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petra22 said:
Do you have an obligation to wish good things for our country? The man is president. He is making decisions for our country. Do you have no obligation to the USA? This may be your problem.
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We all have an obligation to wish good things for the WORLD. I see Trump tearing it apart, not making it better.
 
That doesn’t matter. Trump is president, and it is his actions that will be held accountable. He represents the US, and frankly, I’m ashamed to have a man of his low moral fiber representing me anywhere.
 
Also, during the primaries, that should have also been the case. He never mentioned abortion. He mentioned the good things planned parenthood did. It’s incorrect to think he was more prolife than any other republican candidate. People obviously voted for him for issues other than abortion. He didn’t even mention abortion in his acceptance speech at the primary.

Now we need to pretend he has some type of invisible virtue.
 
F_Marturana said:
He’s the president, not a king. Condoning these shenanigans that he does is scandal.

Catholics should be able to say that sleeping with another woman is adultery. Adultery is wrong. Trump is wrong for having done that.

But instead we pretend it doesn’t matter.

Abortion is linked to promiscuity.
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He is not committing adultery NOW. Have you looked in your own parish? your own town? Is there any one there committing adultery? What? And Abortion is linked to promiscuity. That’s why a lot of women choose abortion because the men who promised faithfulness didn’t really mean it… and a lot of women didn’t really mean it… so let’s destroy our sin… no one has to know… If this is your only problem with Trump then you have a problem. You are judging his past sin. Look at the world leaders he is working with. Any of them ever commit adultery? I don’t think adultery is good for anyone. All his supporters said that. But here we are and he is the President. Would you be surprised if Hilary had committed adultery? Remember we grew up in free love society. Make love, not war!!!
 
The Republican Party is pro-life. Trump is pro-Trump, and that could be pro-life or pro-choice depending on who is pregnant. He changes his stance on things from hour-to-hour.
 
F_Marturana said:
Catholics should be able to say that sleeping with another woman is adultery. Adultery is wrong. Trump is wrong for having done that.
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I don’t have any problem saying it’s wrong. I also don’t have a problem saying that he’s doing a much better job as President than I anticipated when he started his campaign. Presidents have been having affairs, likely since George Washington, who had a reputation for liking the ladies. We don’t have a problem separating the private failings from the public successes of previous Presidents. It’s only with Trump that we can’t allow credit for anything.
 
petra22 said:
He is not committing adultery NOW. Have you looked in your own parish? your own town? Is there any one there committing adultery? What? And Abortion is linked to promiscuity. That’s why a lot of women choose abortion because the men who promised faithfulness didn’t really mean it… and a lot of women didn’t really mean it… so let’s destroy our sin… no one has to know… If this is your only problem with Trump then you have a problem. You are judging his past sin. Look at the world leaders he is working with. Any of them ever commit adultery? I don’t think adultery is good for anyone. All his supporters said that. But here we are and he is the President. Would you be surprised if Hilary had committed adultery? Remember we grew up in free love society. Make love, not war!!!
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What does Trump’s immorality have to do with anyone else’s immorality. Do your sins make Trump’s acceptable?
 
I do have sins and that must be why I can understand a man like DT. I know we are all sinners and I hope that though I am a sinner I can still do some good in my community and in my family. Gosh, if I had to have everyone keep pointing to my sin instead of my good heart I would crumble. And I do crumble when I come before God and he still LOVES me, not my past sins.
 
Road-Worrier said:
It’s only with Trump that we can’t allow credit for anything.
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If my neighbor commits adultery, then by your reasoning, it would be okay for me to commit adultery, too? Wrong. Both would be wrong. I don’t think past adulterous presidents were criticized so much because they didn’t brag about their adultery. Trump seems to glory in it, like it’s a good thing. I’m not convinced he knows right from wrong. That makes him a very dangerous president.
 
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ConstantLearner said:
If my neighbor commits adultery, then by your reasoning, it would be okay for me to commit adultery, too?
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Uh, no…but if you’re neighbor commits adultery, he can still be a good neighbor. He can still be a good father. He can still be an effective President of the Homeowner’s Association.
ConstantLearner said:
I don’t think past adulterous presidents were criticized so much because they didn’t brag about their adultery.
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I think past Presidents weren’t criticized because you didn’t have a voracious 24-hour news cycle and the press of the past still respected even public figures right to a private life.
ConstantLearner said:
Trump seems to glory in it, like it’s a good thing. I’m not convinced he knows right from wrong. That makes him a very dangerous president.
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Trump came of age in the 1960s and 1970s, when adultery, promiscuity, and drug use was starting to get glamorized in the media. Those moral failings make him no more likely to be dangerous as President than similar failings made Obama, GWB, or Clinton likely to be dangerous.
 
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ConstantLearner said:
Translation: You can’t spin it. And, I take no delight in abortion. I’m against abortion. Watch it with the personal attacks, please.
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Watch it with having so much enjoyment in the prurient that you invent abortion scenarios when there’s no evidence to support it other than one’s own febrile imagination.
 
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Road-Worrier said:
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What does Trump’s immorality have to do with anyone else’s immorality. Do your sins make Trump’s acceptable?
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Why is it only Trump’s moral failings that demand he be shunned from polite society?
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Where did I say it is only Trump’s moral failings? This thread is about Donald, if you want to start a thread about Bill Clinton’s moral failings I will be saying the same things.
 
I would like to think anyone whom the Evangelicals support is held to some higher moral standard but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
 
Road-Worrier said:
Trump came of age in the 1960s and 1970s, when adultery, promiscuity, and drug use was starting to get glamorized in the media. Those moral failings make him no more likely to be dangerous as President than similar failings made Obama, GWB, or Clinton likely to be dangerous.
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They certainly make him far less respected by respectable people in the US and the rest of the world, and that makes him more dangerous. I think his many lies and misleading statements are what make him dangerous, myself. For example, last night he said he’s LOVE to sit down and talk with Mueller IF his lawyers ok’d it, knowing they do not. Some poor fools, somewhere, probably think he’ll actually do it.
 
You must have me confused with someone else. I don’t “enjoy” the prurient, and no one accused Trump of forcing anyone to abort. It was a hypothetical to show he is not truly pro-life, since he admitted as much. You know what a hypothetical is, right?
 
ProVobis said:
I would like to think anyone whom the Evangelicals support is held to some higher moral standard but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
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I would like to think any religious group holds the president of the US to a high moral standard, but it seems Trump supporters allow him to set his own moral standard, then they just accept what he set.
 
ConstantLearner said:
They certainly make him far less respected by respectable people in the US and the rest of the world, and that makes him more dangerous.
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Well, I am a deplorable, so I guess that excludes me from the ranks of the “respectable”, and thank God for it.
 
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