You can't be both a Catholic and a Feminist

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Kev, I say we kick this whole bucket thing altogether. How about a nice fruit basket instead?
 
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HelpingHands:
Well, there might be a lot of reasons. The same reason, maybe, that men join the Rotary Club. To work together with other folks in the community for good causes. To join together with non-Catholics for the common good. 🙂
ok by I don’t remember the last time some said I’m a Rotary Club Catholic?

Furthermore the Rotary Club doesn’t have an agenda! It isn’t an ‘ISM’

In that respect your example if flawed.

I truely hope that you don’t consider feminism to be a girls “Club” or something trivial. Feminism can be dangerous when it starts to define who you are. (when you start to eat from that bucket)
 
Hey Y’all,

There is absolutely NOTHING that my husband can do that I can’t…except maybe write his name in the snow…or maybe lift something that weighs 200lbs (without throwing my back out)…or maybe enjoy professional wrestling…
AND… there’s nothing I can do that he can’t…like give birth…choose his clothes for Sunday Mass or a meeting with clients (plaid and stripes…yuck!)…listen to my sister for hooouuuurrrrrrs on end…Put my job aside to make dinner…NO! PIZZA IS NOT DINNER…HOW MANY TIMES…Oh, sorry.
The point is, we are different, but equal. Feminism has been so incredibly corrupted that the word has a completely different connotation from back when a few gals said “Gee…why can’t I vote?”. It’s been denigrated and masculinized while all us women have been standing around saying "WHAT???
I am a feminist…and man, do I love men! I think you guys ROCK. I don’t want to be like you…all that hair must itch, and i hate pro-wrestling!
The only thing (IMHO) that any “true feminist” wants is respect…the kind of respect Jesus showed Mary…the kind of respect Joseph shaowed Mary. Follow the guidelines “Wives, love your husbands, and husbands love your wives”.
We are NOT the same…but to treat a woman as less than a man is ungodly.
Just because there are some nut cases out there who hate men…don’t lump all women who know we are just as good as you (because God made us…man and woman in His own image) into the same category as a bunch of loonies who hate men!
It’s like saying all white people are racist because there are a few nutcases out there who are racist! These people are lost!!! They need help…they need God.
Gotta go try that whole name in the snow thing now…it is the key to equality, you know…Damn, I live in Florida…no snow. CURSES!
PS: Catholicism is an “ism”.
 
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LeftHandBlack:
Kev, I say we kick this whole bucket thing.
yeah I think we should kick the feminist bucket over 🙂 that way people can only eat the fruit of life from the Catholic bucket… but then again… that would take away from the choice that God gives us all.
 
Hey Kev,
If this all boils down to semantics, then you also can’t say who or who isn’t a Catholic! Put that in your bucket and eat it! 😛 😉
 
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tcay584:
Hey Y’all,

There is absolutely NOTHING that my husband can do that I can’t…except maybe write his name in the snow…or maybe lift something that weighs 200lbs (without throwing my back out)…or maybe enjoy professional wrestling…
AND… there’s nothing I can do that he can’t…like give birth…choose his clothes for Sunday Mass or a meeting with clients (plaid and stripes…yuck!)…listen to my sister for hooouuuurrrrrrs on end…Put my job aside to make dinner…NO! PIZZA IS NOT DINNER…HOW MANY TIMES…Oh, sorry.
The point is, we are different, but equal. Feminism has been so incredibly corrupted that the word has a completely different connotation from back when a few gals said “Gee…why can’t I vote?”. It’s been denigrated and masculinized while all us women have been standing around saying "WHAT???
I am a feminist…and man, do I love men! I think you guys ROCK. I don’t want to be like you…all that hair must itch, and i hate pro-wrestling!
The only thing (IMHO) that any “true feminist” wants is respect…the kind of respect Jesus showed Mary…the kind of respect Joseph shaowed Mary. Follow the guidelines “Wives, love your husbands, and husbands love your wives”.
We are NOT the same…but to treat a woman as less than a man is ungodly.
Just because there are some nut cases out there who hate men…don’t lump all women who know we are just as good as you (because God made us…man and woman in His own image) into the same category as a bunch of loonies who hate men!
It’s like saying all white people are racist because there are a few nutcases out there who are racist! These people are lost!!! They need help…they need God.
Gotta go try that whole name in the snow thing now…it is the key to equality, you know…Damn, I live in Florida…no snow. CURSES!
PS: Catholicism is an “ism”.
(APPLAUSE. DEAFENINGLY LOUD APPLAUSE.)

And Kev, I was not referring to the feminist bucket. Quite frankly, I like the feminist bucket. It’s ergonomic and spiffy…and it has cookies!
 
LeftHandBlack said:
(APPLAUSE. DEAFENINGLY LOUD APPLAUSE.)

And Kev, I was not referring to the feminist bucket. Quite frankly, I like the feminist bucket. It’s ergonomic and spiffy…and it has cookies!

I’ve read some of your posts… quite frankly I think you are a troll. I’m still distrubed your insluts
 
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HelpingHands:
Hey Kev,
If this all boils down to semantics, then you also can’t say who or who isn’t a Catholic! Put that in your bucket and eat it! 😛 😉
oh GOD!!! 🙂

that one must be from the feminst bucket. Keep your bad apples out! thank you. that one has relativism all over it.
 
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kev7:
oh GOD!!! 🙂

that one must be from the feminst bucket. Keep your bad apples out! thank you. that one has relativism all over it.
Maybe one can be a "Cafeteria Feminist’, eh??? 😃
 
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kev7:
oh GOD!!! 🙂

that one must be from the feminst bucket. Keep your bad apples out! thank you. that one has relativism all over it.
Where do you live? Are you dateable? 🙂 that is if you are woman!
 
I am a Catholic woman.
I am also a Feminist. A real Feminist-- for Life.
I am also a daughter, wife, mother, friend, musician and more.
Saying that you should not say anything but that you are Catholic is just silly.
 
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beckyann2597:
I am a Catholic woman.
I am also a Feminist. A real Feminist-- for Life.
I am also a daughter, wife, mother, friend, musician and more.
Saying that you should not say anything but that you are Catholic is just silly.
I take it as a feminist, there are things about the catholic church that you don’t accept?
 
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kev7:
I’ve read some of your posts… quite frankly I think you are a troll. I’m still distrubed your insluts
Well many thanks for distributing my insults, kev.
And the funny thing is, I used to be a troll until three billy goats gruff muscled me out of the bridge business. Now I make my living as a werewolf- the pay’s great, and the fringe benefits (like the black spiked flea collar I got from a nice young woman who I saved from muggers) are beyond awesome. Did I also mention I get free chew toys?

Seriously though, stay on the topic we’re debating. If you’re running out of steam with your argument, at least go out with some class and dignity instead taking cheap shots at me as a person.
 
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kev7:
Feminism can’t be defined. You can try to define it but you won’t have any luck.
Of course Feminism can be defined. I already did that. Apparently you rejected it, but that doesn’t stop me from defining it. 🙂
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kev7:
Are you saying that the catholic church does not support the belief in the social, political and economic equality of the sexes? Do you disagree with the churches teachings regarding the roles of men and women?
No, that’s not what I’m saying. I agree 100% with the Church’s teaching on everything. I don’t like cafeterias. :nope: The Church teaches that men are NOT above women, and that women are NOT above men. They are different, and have different roles in society. The Church’s teachings agree with the definition of Feminism that I gave.
 
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kev7:
I take it as a feminist, there are things about the catholic church that you don’t accept?
I didn’t say that. are you saying that by saying that you are Catholic and thats it that you are not a man, or a husband , or a father, or a friend? Of course not! You may be all of those things. I am just saying that God Is perfect and made me a very unique and complicated creature, just as He did with all is creatures. I look forward to continuing my growth as a Christian in His Church and I will accept whatever The Catholic Church Teaches. I think you are missing the point of what we are saying when we call ourselves feminists. We are not saying we are not Catholic.
 
Michael Welter:
Of course Feminism can be defined. I already did that. Apparently you rejected it, but that doesn’t stop me from defining it. 🙂

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Ahhhh…you shall define and accept as you see fit? Kind of like those Cafeteria Catholics ( Don’t for one second think i’m not faithful)…respond to what you like…leave the rest behind. Respond, Michael. Be true to your faith…or are ya just too scairt! I am female…I am just as “good” (not more… just “as” good) as you…and as worthy of consideration. After all…I am made in the image of God…just like you. You know…if you were another female spewing this vitriol…I’d toss you over just as fast! ***I ***don’t discriminate.
 
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tcay584:
Michael Welter:
Of course Feminism can be defined. I already did that. Apparently you rejected it, but that doesn’t stop me from defining it. 🙂

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Ahhhh…you shall define and accept as you see fit? Kind of like those Cafeteria Catholics ( Don’t for one second think i’m not faithful)…respond to what you like…leave the rest behind. Respond, Michael. Be true to your faith…or are ya just too scairt! I am female…I am just as “good” (not more… just “as” good) as you…and as worthy of consideration. After all…I am made in the image of God…just like you. You know…if you were another female spewing this vitriol…I’d toss you over just as fast! ***I ***
don’t discriminate.

As a womn you are only made in the image of God when you are a perfect mother.
 
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kev7:
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tcay584:
As a womn you are only made in the image of God when you are a perfect mother.
Ah, but no Mother is perfect, man! And we were already created in the image of God…I don’t think that’s dependent on parenthood.
 
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kev7:
As a womn you are only made in the image of God when you are a perfect mother.
That statement throws your Mother Theresa example out the window.
There are Saints who were women and not mothers.
 
My bigest problem with feminism is that it leads many catholic women to reject the following teaching of the church.
  1. Premarital Sex
  2. Contraception
  3. Papal Infallibility
  4. Holy Orders
and sometimes
  1. Sanctity of Life
When you call yourself a feminist how are we to know which of these you do or don’t subscribe to?

I don’t know any catholic women who call themselves feminists that don’t reject at least one of those teachings.
 
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