Another man dies in police custody after disturbing video

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‘An example of “white privilege” is being able to frame the discussion of racism in terms of “let’s discuss how the person who looks like me might still be a good person on the inside no matter how it effects the person who doesnt.”’

This is lunacy. One could almost call it racist but oh wait racism is a system of power and privilege so only white people can be racist. Zebra murders anyone?
 
Or i just clowned you and because you’ve got nothing you’re saying “lunacy” talking about zebras and putting words out there i didnt type.

I dont believe the “only white people can be racist thing.” I’m more into the Kendi line of thought when it comes to anti racism.
 
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Or i just clowned you and because you’ve got nothing you’re saying “lunacy” talking about zebras and putting words out there i didnt type.
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If you’ve never read about the Zebra murders, look them up. If you can stomach it.
 
Just because a cop happens to be white and the victim/assailant black does that ipso facto mean that any resulting aggression is the result of racism??

And if it is ALWAYS TRUE that it is then so too is the inverse of that:
Regarding threats to blacks from the police: A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.
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And let’s not please assume that the cop doing the killing is ALWAYS white because she/he isn’t.

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Regarding threats to blacks from the police: A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.
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But that in itself can be attributed to racism apparently.
 
Then what bearings does your reply have on this case other than to pontificate that we don’t get it?
 
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Look back in your post, you asked me a question and i answered it directly. That’s not pontificating.
 
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You wrote to Student MI not me! And I directed a question, my response, to Regular Atheist (not you) when he mentioned systemic racism!

You’re getting everyone mixed up.

The response I got doesn’t explain how systemic racism played a part in this case.

So I’ll ask, because it has been brought up twice now, in what systemic way was the police officer acting intentionally or unintentionally racist???

Because I was told ideally I should believe it is.
 
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Lol i.e. you tried to tried to bait me into defending a theoretical claim not made by me and it didn’t work. Better luck next time 🙂
 
I have no idea what you are responding to and what claims you are making and how this is pertinent to the case or the argument I gave in reply to Regular Atheist . . .etc. etc.!

I’m not tricking you, I’m utterly confused.

If your mission was to explain what Regular Atheist meant by systemic racism then why the heck didn’t you just say so without the pontificating!!
 
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RobertAdams said:
If an action, policy, behavior negatively impacts someone due to their race it is racist. An example of “white privilege” is being able to frame the discussion of racism in terms of “let’s discuss how the person who looks like me might still be a good person on the inside no matter how it effects the person who doesnt.” I think that’s backwards and crazy. It should be “is the person on the receiving end ok, and how can we stop this from happening.”
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I used to be dismissive of the concept of ‘priviledge’ because I thought it was a blanket accusation aimed at an entire race of people. When I ‘got it’ I noticed it in so many areas, far more than White society. These days, I prefer to see it in more Catholic terms as ‘wordliness.’ Because it’s basically based on widely held values/biases on what matters in life, (i.e. our worship of money/might/status that makes us unconsciously or consciously attach more human value to people of money/might/status) which is opposite to what Christian values prescribe/teach. It translates, in practice, to whatever group in a given era that is associated with poverty/weakness/lack of success in the collective skim of things not ‘mattering’ as much as those associated with might/success etc.

I wish whoever coined the phrase had used a different term for it because I think ‘priviledge’ is very easy to misunderstand quite frankly: Lots of people think it’s about White people doing something wrong. In my third-world home country, the ‘priviledge’ plays out quite differently, it’s more bluntly classist. In other areas, and even globally, the human tendency for loose associations essentially finds a proxy for ‘class’ and ‘importance’ in race or ethnicity when there are historical disparities in economic and other forms of ‘might’ between ethnic/racial groups.

I also think ‘priviledge’ is an inaccurate term for the phenomenon because it implies there’s something White people have now that they should NOT; i.e. being treated as an individual on a day to day basis, at the store, school, job-applications; interactions with police or courts, etc. But this is not a ‘priviledge;’ it’s how things ought to be in general. The issue is how we can treat everyone that way in all areas who currently has the experience of being received in some places, day to day, as a representative of a group (therefore assumed to be less trustworthy, dangerous etc, depending on what has come to be associated with said group).
 
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I’m not sure what’s expected here, but can we not all agree that what happened to Floyd is a grave immoral injustice that needs to be rectified but that the riots that are now ripping through cities bringing chaos and destruction is not a legitimate CATHOLIC RESPONSE???
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That is certainly something I agree with. I think the response is a human one, given history, but there’s no way it would be a Catholic response.
 
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People can defend their property. One’s home could be broken into, shouldn’t they be able to defend themselves?
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Yes they should.

In Kentucky, citizens have the option of invoking the castle doctrine as well as stand your ground law if faced with a home invasion.

The lady that was killed by police in Louisville was with a man who fired at the police when they broke in with a no knock warrant. She was an ems tech.

Castle doctrine and stand your ground laws are incompatible with no knock warrants.

One has to go. The no knock warrants.

The man, who in this case, fired at police was initially charged with murder. Prosecutors dropped those charges.

And rightfully so.

The sad thing in this is the suspect that police were looking for was already in custody.
 
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As a resident of Longfellow and a long time repeat customer of Ghandi Mahal, of course he doesn’t talk about anyone but himself. Nor does he claim to do so. I walked the street in front of his restaurant on Saturday. From the pattern of destruction it is clear that the fire started from his restaurant and spread to either side. A sad truth is that his business was likely targeted because he’s a POC. Target was not burned and looted as part of the same attack.

All weekend long, our neighborhood association has been identifying, confronting and driving back white people in out of state vehicles, like the Texas plated F-250 I saw with an “F Muzzies” old bumper sticker. Our neighborhood leaders were directly warned by National Guard contacts of white supremacist groups in our area.

It’s not just the racist police department we are opposing, but direct planned attacks by hostile racists who keep tossing accelerants behind small businesses and into alleys, breaking windows and using the cover of night to do their worst.
 
So you’re saying it is the White supremacists from other locations that are setting fires to businesses, while others are saying it is the left-wing anarchists and groups such as Antifa that are organizing the riots. Which is the truth? Could it be both groups: Far Right AND Far Left? Are any of the local residents also responsible for the looting? Will the media ever give us the truth about what is really going on without partisan bias?
 
I’m saying in my neighborhood, based on my own multiple observations and sleepless nights (up again tonight), as well as the pics and videos shared by neighbors in their reports to the neighborhood private socal group, and finally based on what our association leaders, one of whom is a council member for the city, have shared with us what they were advised by the National Guard - the main threat was and is from white nationalist groups. The NG specifically mentioned Aryan Nation as a target.

That is in regards to arson attempts and explosive devices recovered.

With regards to looting and defacement of buildings, that was a mixed group of people, many age 15 to 21. These were opportunists but not associated with the protests other than taking advantage of skirmishes when police started gassing people.

But the predatory targeting of business by accelerants, to a person so far every one we’ve managed to capture on video or been arrested in our area has been affiliated with right leaning groups using the protests as a way to infiltrate and attack our neighborhood businesses which are majority POC owned.
 
Then those in the media and the WH who say that Antifa anarchists are responsible, at least in your neighborhood, are telling us a bunch of malarkey?
 
I’ve seen media cite both Antifa and white nationalists as causes, falling along predictable lines in media. I’ve observed Antifa demonstrations in this city in the past, but I haven’t seen any evidence of them here.

Yet.

It’s possible they could be in other neighborhoods, but the individuals we’re seeing over and over in this one are the same types. With identifying characteristics like neo-Nazi tats, runes, and then there’s the camo clothing, the AR-15s and how some of them are so helpful as to tell the N word at someone and then trying to run them down. One black guy was hit and sent flying by a white lady with FL plates, working in conjunction with two other trucks.

Certainly, Antifa might have gone all out in supplying people with hunter and military type clothing, caps, tats and Pepe the Frog bumper stickers, etc.

And certainly Antifa could be active on other areas. But in mine, the white nationalists were out in force.

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