Anthony Bourdain Dead at 61 in Apparent Suicide

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I don’t know those things. You’re more educated on such matters.
 
SacredHeartBassist said:
Having money gives you the opportunity to go to the best therapists and can afford you the best healthcare. He could’ve gotten help, but it looks like he gave up
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We don’t know what all he did. He may have gotten help and it wasn’t effective. As I said I think the spiritual aspects get overlooked. Also, suicide isn’t just from depression and mental health problems. That is a modern and frankly un Christian opinion. None of us knows why he did it.
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I don’t know why we are defending someone who killed themselves and left their little daughter all alone FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE
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I don’t defend his actions. His actions are wrong. I think most everyone would agree. One can condemn someone’s actions while having pity on them. I feel sorry for anyone who would take his life for whatever reason.
 
Then don’t talk about military affairs as a civilian without asking first.
 
When you’re a parent you do whatever you can for your children.

You don’t go kill yourself and give up
 
SacredHeartBassist said:
I don’t know why we are defending someone who killed themselves and left their little daughter all alone FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE

FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE she’ll wonder why her dad didn’t love her enough to stay
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Did a close family member or caretaker in your life commit suicide? My deepest condolences if so. I cannot imagine how painful that must be.
 
SacredHeartBassist said:
When you’re a parent you do whatever you can for your children.

You don’t go kill yourself and give up
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SHB, what makes this bad is what I said: they don’t see it that way. They just don’t. They think their family will be better off without them. They actually mean no harm, oddly enough.

I totally get that this is impossible to understand. I don’t understand it either. But if they’ve decided this is their answer, they sincerely believe that. And if they survive the attempt, sometimes they can’t believe they thought that either.
 
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If I am not mistaken we are to pray for the souls of the dead, not insult nor curse them…
 
We don’t even know that Bourdain meant no harm. Maybe he did it to spite his girlfriend. We don’t know why he did it. But still he left behind his daughter. And that really got to me.

I hope you all are right and he was truly a sick man
 
SacredHeartBassist said:
FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE she’ll wonder why her dad didn’t love her enough to stay
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This might be throwing water on a grease fire but divorce does the same thing.

I’ll also add from personal, family experience that even adult children have the same problems when a parent kills himself.

I agree with much of what you say but I think having pity on the man is proper too.
 
SacredHeartBassist said:
We don’t even know that Bourdain meant no harm. Maybe he did it to spite his girlfriend. We don’t know why he did it. But still he left behind his daughter. And that really got to me.
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I’m only telling you what research has shown.

I understand that. I also immediately thought of his child. I’ve heard him talk about her in interviews and how being a parent was the most amazing thing he’d ever done. But when they make the decision to do this, they cease being that person. They’re so far gone they don’t think that anymore.
 
No, divorce does not have the same effect as suicide on a child. Divorce is terrible too but a child doesn’t completely lose their parent that way.
 
SacredHeartBassist said:
No, divorce does not have the same effect as suicide on a child. Divorce is terrible too but a child doesn’t completely lose their parent that way.
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We don’t know what mental effects people suffer as everyone processes things differently.
 
SacredHeartBassist said:
No, divorce does not have the same effect as suicide on a child. Divorce is terrible too but a child doesn’t completely lose their parent that way.
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Divorce could be worse actually. Instead of losing a parent they both hate each other and run the other down.
 
AlbertDerGrosse said:
Did a close family member or caretaker in your life commit suicide? My deepest condolences if so. I cannot imagine how painful that must be.
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VERY good point.

SHB, if this is true, you don’t have to tell us, but you might want to go talk to someone - and I say that as a concerned friend. If it IS true, then we’re misinterpreting you greatly. If it’s true then I can see how this has gotten inside your head. And if it is true - I apologize. 🌹🌹
 
philipl said:
so that is proof? Bourdain had access to all the mental help he wanted. TV is awash with people talking about their mental health problems. This board is full of people going on and on about their depression and mental issues. What isnt happening is that those with mental health issues are not being coddled. You have a mental health issue, go get help stop wearing on your sleeve grow up and take responsibility for yourself.
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Okay now you should stop it. So easy to say as the third party.
 
I was just flabbergasted by those posts, and couldn’t come up with any other possibilities to charitably explain them.
 
I’m somewhat embarrassed that I missed that. I’m usually pretty good at catching that sort of thing.
 
People should still behave themselves. Sometimes it’s better not to post and come back later.
 
I agree that suicide is a horrible thing. But unless you’ve been there yourself, you don’t know the person’s frame of mind and are not in a position to judge or to be angry esp if you didn’t know the person.

When one reaches the point where he or she even contemplates suicide, it doesn’t matter who is being left behind. In the person’s mind, they will be better off without that person. The mindset is very calm, not hysterical, very logical to the person ready to take that final step. Some succeed. Others don’t. Many of those who don’t succeed the first time will try again and keep trying until they succeed. It doesn’t matter how much therapy they get or have access to. They don’t want to live anymore for whatever reason.

Again, you have no reason to be angry at Anthony, at Kate Spade, at anyone who chooses to end their life in such a manner. You aren’t their family, their friends, anyone close to them. The people in the deceased’s life are the ones who have the right to these feelings.

The rest of us are outsiders. All we can do is pray for them and for their families. We can mourn the loss of talent, of potential, of what might have been.

But anger, no. You want to be angry? Put it to constructive use at a suicide prevention line, as a counselor, as a mental health professional, as something that will do some good.

But do not judge the person who decided not to stay in this world. You aren’t them.
 
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