Could Joe Biden be reached?

[o_mlly]

As it stands right now, Joe Biden will probably be the Democratic nominee for President.

It is, I think, important to remember that we are not voting for our next pastor or bishop.

Who would you rather make president for that auto dealership you own, Trump or Biden? Who is better suited to negotiate with suppliers and customers? Who is more likely to work 16 hours a day to see that you make a profit? Which one can work 16 hours a day? Who is more likely to watch costs and reduce unnecessary expenditure?

I think Trump is the better one. If Biden get nominated and elected, I can only hope that the Republican Party holds onto the Senate and regains control of the “gone-wild” House. Four years of gridlock is preferable to any of the policy initiatives I’ve heard from Biden.

 

[Randolph]

Me too and it really irks me when people try to make me feel guilty for voting my conscience!

I don’t vote for a third party. But I support your right to vote your conscience—as everyone should.

 

[Randolph]

. The church does approve abortion in the case of the mother’s life, suicide, etc…and those numbers account for approcimately 1/3 of all abortions in the USA alone…so it’s not quite as black and white as both sides seem to declare…

In the US alone, legal abortion accounts for about 650,000 cases per year in recent years. Even if we accept your number (1/3), around 420,000 innocent, helpless babies are killed in their mothers’ wombs per year. This is evil at its core… It is black and white…

 

[HomeschoolDad]

HomeschoolDad:

I have a feeling

That’s not really something to be trusted.

I have already dealt with this above, so I won’t belabor it here. I will just say that I have hunches, and intuitions, and feelings, and I listen to them. Others may do as they see fit.

webmasterpdx:

In the case of an ectopic pregnancy, the foetus attaches outside the womb …

Did you know a leading cause of ectopic pregnancies is thought to be the use of contraceptives? When we leave the reservation we ought not expect good things will happen to or for us.

https://healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Ectopic-pregnancy
Other risk factors include:

• using an intra-uterine device (IUD), also known as a coil
• using a progesterone-only oral contraceptive pill (minipill)
• undergoing fertility treatment (IVF).

Thanks for pointing this out.

Good points all. I agree, a Catholic hospital will most likely have more compassion and if the mother’s life is in danger, I’m pretty sure they will not ram it down the family’s throat…and leave it up to them to decide.

I would like to know some examples of how an emergency decision has to be made, either to take the life of the baby and save the mother, or to keep preserving the life of the baby and allowing the mother to die in the process. If anyone thinks that a Catholic doctor directly takes the life of the mother — and how would the doctor do that, exactly? — I’d be interested to know that too.

I have to wonder if these people are thinking of cases where the mother’s life will be imperiled if she carries the baby to term, whereas if she will just go ahead and have the abortion, she will not die.

 

[Randolph]

BTW, this harping on abortion is not accurate, and I wish Catholics would get a grip. Abortion is NOT a binary thing. The church does approve abortion in the case of the mother’s life, suicide, etc…

Abortion is an intrinsic evil. In the case of saving the mother’s life, if the mother dies so would the baby.

 

[Lamentations]

And by the way, you know I sit on the stand and it’d get hot. I got a lot of — I got hairy legs … that turn blonde in the sun," Biden said struggling to find the right words. "And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and then watch the hair come back up again. So I learned about roaches and I learned about kids jumping on my lap. I love kids jumping on my lap. (Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

 

[MyMother]

I stopped voting for democrats 30 years ago; they are now full blown communists, have no respect for the constitution, life, or anything else. They are power hungry, godless, above the law criminals.

I still pray for their souls.

 

[webmasterpdx]

I don’t dispute that. I am arguing that the church needs to stop talking like abortion is a binary thing. Note that the other side does the same thing. If you are truly pro-life, then you must be pro the mothers life too.

 

[Randolph]

The first thing is as opposed to whom? Trump? Every single day, Trump lies in his tweets and on TV…not just subtle lies of memory but out and out bald faced lies. Just yesterday he said he had an innate abililty to know science better than experts? This is nuts? Why would you vote for a man who has the attributes of Adolf Hitler? (Delegitimizing the press, blaming immigrants and muslims (substitute jews) for our problems, dividing the nation, puting Putin’s word ahead of his own people, etc, etc, )… So cult of personality aside, Joe Biden is an angel of mercy in comparison… He is NOT anything close to the liar that Trump is…

We are electing a president of the United States—not a saint. We are choosing a person who leads and protects the US. This requires personal traits of a tough and go getter personality. Both Trump and Biden lied in their past. It’s pointless to argue who lies more. I am quite sure Trump supporters would disagree with you on this issue—and vice versa. If one is really honest, Biden track records on women and minorities also screamed fouls. There are recordings to prove these facts. What he said about Indians (seven eleven stores), woman about football, touchy hands, his friendships and defense of KKK congressmen, etc…

Neither Biden nor Trump are saints… We are electing a leader with visions and policies to protect, grow and strengthen the US.

 

[webmasterpdx]

Thats a whole other ball of wax Which is the least harmful, use of contraceptives or abortion? BTW contraception decreases ectopic pregnancy, not increasing it. There are certain types of contraception that are an exception to that, but overall contraception does decrease it.

 

[o_mlly]

BTW contraception decreases ectopic pregnancy, not increasing it. There are certain types of contraception that are an exception to that, but overall contraception does decrease it.

Contraception reduces all pregnancies, not just ectopic ones. In the smaller set of ectopic pregnancies, the use of contraceptives has shown to be causal.

 

[webmasterpdx]

Actually there are 2 democratic parties as there are 2 republican parties. There are the progressives, that while not communists are more socialist oriented. Then there are the moderates which are more sane IMO. The republicans on the other hand also have 2 parties. There are those towards the center that are again more sane, but then there are those who are on the extreme right that are lacking in compassion for their fellow human beings, have no empathy, are sociopaths and narcissists and believe in a dicatatorship. Trump falls into this category by the way, and has followed Hitler’s playbook to the letter (delegitimize the press, blame immigrants and muslims for our problems, remove the checks and balances in our government, violate the constititution, etc, etc). I’d rather have Biden who will listen to experts than a thug who thinks he knows more than experts and is bludgeoning the country’s future as he stumbles around.

 

[Randolph]

I don’t dispute that. I am arguing that the church needs to stop talking like abortion is a binary thing. Note that the other side does the same thing. If you are truly pro-life, then you must be pro the mothers life too.

The Church is pro-mothers and pro-life when it allows abortion in order the save the mother’s life. If the mother dies because of her carrying on the pregnancy, then both mother and baby would die. Whereas, in the other scenario, the mother would live.

There have been many cases where mothers were told by their doctors their own pregnancies would put their own lives in grave dangers. But these mothers refused and gave birth to their own children. Tim Tebow’s mother was an example.

Tim Tebow: I’d rather be known for saving a lot of babies from abortion than winning Super Bowl | Entertainment News

Excerpts from the article:

Tebow shared that the issue of abortion is a personal one for him because his mother was once encouraged to abort him. The athlete and his mom shared their story in a 2010 Super Bowl commercial for Focus on the Family. He recounted the story at the banquet.

“You see, my mom 32 years ago had doctors tell her she needed to abort me because if she didn’t, it was going to cost her life. And they didn’t even believe that I was a baby,” he recalled. "They thought I was a tumor.”

The Florida native added, "When I was born, they found out the placenta wasn’t actually attached. So the doctor looked at my mom after 37 years of being a doctor and said, ‘This is the biggest miracle I’ve ever seen because I’m not sure how he’s alive.’ … I’m so grateful that my mom trusted God with my life and her life.”

 

[Randolph]

for their fellow human beings, have no empathy, are sociopaths and narcissists and believe in a dicatatorship. Trump falls into this category by the way, and has followed Hitler’s playbook to the letter (delegitimize the press, blame immigrants and muslims for our problems, remove the checks and balances in our government, violate the constititution, etc, etc). I’d rather have Biden who will listen to experts than a thug who thinks he knows more than experts and is bludgeoning the country’s future as he stumbles around.

It was the American people that elected Trump as their president… Now, after three years in office, Trump now has higher approval rating from the American public than Obama did at this same time into the presidency. More than 70% of American households are doing better now than before Trump took office. At 3.5% unemployment rate and more than 7 millions jobs added to the economy since his election, American feel very good about the country and economy. After his impeachment, he approval number hits its highest mark. ISIS (people who also beheaded Christians in the Middle East) is eliminated. Wars are being ended, and our young men and women are coming home to their families… These are very good things…

You may have your strong and negative opinions about Trump. The American public after three years of knowing Trump and his accomplishments seems to disagree with you. And you are wrong. Trump is against illegal immigration, and for legal immigration. As a legal immigrant myself, I wholeheartedly agree with him.

It’s beneath decency to compare Trump to Hitler… The human travesty of the holocaust where millions of Jews were murdered should never be used this way. You may disagree with him and decide to vote against him. It is absolutely your right. More than 60 million Americans voted for him and will likely vote for him again. These Americans certainly did not vote for Hitler.

 

[webmasterpdx]

You are mistaken on his popularity…It’s not unfair to compare him with Hitler…what he is doing is identical. He has already tried basic concentration camps (look at the migrant kids put in cages), and if allowed to follow through to completion, he will…he has absolutely no empathy. I predict that if he loses or even if he wins and his term comes to completion, he will resist leaving the whitehouse, calling it fake, etc, etc…watch and remember this conversation…

 

[Randolph]

You are mistaken on his popularity…It’s not unfair to compare him with Hitler…what he is doing is identical. He has already tried basic concentration camps (look at the migrant kids put in cages), and if allowed to follow through to completion, he will…he has absolutely no empathy. I predict that if he loses or even if he wins and his term comes to completion, he will resist leaving the whitehouse, calling it fake, etc, etc…watch and remember this conversation…

I got my polls/approval numbers from Gallup and Rasmussen. You do realize that the pictures of children in cages were taken during Obama’s presidency… And Trump stopped it when he found that out.

Yes, I will remember this conversation with you when Trump leaves the White House in 1 year or 5 years…

Trump ends his policy of family separations with executive order – as it happened | US immigration | The Guardian

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461230-biden-incorrectly-claims-obama-administration-didnt-separate-families?amp

From the article:

“Children were also placed in cages in some cases under the Obama administration, and Obama-era images of children in such structures have been mislabeled as occurring under the Trump administration on several occasions.”

 

[MyMother]

Are you really Rachel Maddox? Lol, you’re really around the bend.

 

[MyMother]

Joe Biden, who never had a job in the real world, has been living off the government his whole life, never created a job, lives in the lap of luxury. . . .

 

[CTBcin]

Could he be reached? I think it’s possible. Is it likely? Absolutely not. But I’d love to be wrong.

Of the possible Democratic nominees, I think he is the one with the greatest possibility of having a conversion, especially compared to the only other possible nominee at this point: Sanders. But either way, I don’t see it happening.

 

[AlNg]

once upon a time, Joe Biden was opposed to same-sex marriage (I think Obama was as well) and he was opposed to late-term abortion.

Yes, I think he was opposed to late term abortion. His recent views on late term abortion seem somewhat ambiguous. Catholics generally seem to favor allowing same sex marriage at least according to the polls (61%). I heard Tulsi Gabbard say there should be limits on when abortion is allowed by law. I don’t see Joe Biden changing his mind on early or medium term abortion “rights”, or on SS marriage. He now has the endorsement of pro-choice and pro SS marriage Kamala Harris. The Democrats, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and most other Democrats seem to have gone off the deep end with their strident pro-late term abortion views. The child is viable and can live on its own. It should be clear to anyone.