Well it was only by God’s creative act that we even have the principle of self-determination in the first place. God would know “everybody going to Hell” or “everybody going to Heaven” as freely-determined acts of each individual. See my post on the other thread you started.
Indeed ! A puppet he wants to conform to His commandments with our free approval. There would be no other reason for commands from God; of course thinking humans always are over thinking, trying to know the mind of God. Again it is His plan for our ultimate future with Him. I know one thing for sure I would not invite, an murderer to my home unless he were rehabilitated; and I believe this is the crux of the matter.
Yes, in understanding what you are truly saying. Could you use laymans terms.
Lets start from the very fact that God is present to now and future since God knows them. Now lets rewind time back to the point of creation. God was aware of content of creation from the very moment of creation to future. But there was nothing before the very act of creation. Now we are facing a with a problem: God is changeless hence his knowledge. This means that God should have the knowledge of nothingness before the very act of creation which is absurd. Well that is one of the problem. The second problem arises when we accept the very fact that God could create another universe also which means that there exist another nothingness which is again absurd since nothingness is nothingness.
What is the correct wording? Can I say that God sees?
I think it is more about decision that love, but anyhow. If you accept that we make our fates by our own decision then the knowledge of God is contingent in our existence since there is no knowledge related to nonexistence. This is however contrary to the very concept of changeless God.
Only if you constrain God to time. You are not permitted to do that.
God creates time.
How you could do otherwise? God is the creator hence there must exist an existence mode that there is only God, before creation. It should be up to God to create or not but once decision is made then there is another existence mode that there are God and creation. The very definition of creation constrains God to time, before the act creation and after the act creation.
Nope.
So there is a mode of existence where there is no time and another mode of existence where there is time created by God and God. Yet we have two mode of existence one follows another which is basically the very definition of time. Now we have this strange dilemma that you need to be in time to create time!
Could we agree with existence of two modes of existence, first only God and the second God and creation?
No.
How do you define creation?
God causing to be all that exists -both visible and invisible.
How about time? Is time a part of creation as well? How anything can have a dynamic, very concept of creation including time, when the dynamic itself is determined by time?
For humans in the physical world, but in the Eternal world there is no time. In this world we all will die to this world in time, Maybe today, 50 years from now. etc. In the Eternal world there is no time. This world ends, the next world is everlasting.
