How the Catholic 'alt-right' aims to purge LGBTQ members from the church

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That’s like saying that because you are Catholic, you are aligning yourself with pederasts. How does that remotely make sense?

Again, you can cherry pick the worst elements of any group and say "that defines you " but no one else has to apply or adhere to your definition.
That’s true and if you look at two of the groups ‘supposedly’ on the alt right they look back to groups who had leftish origins. so it is silly to associate this with being on the right.

But if you are in the liberal bubble you don’t realise this.

The Nazis were a socialist workers party of the left and the KKK was the arm of the Democratic party.

Time to prick that silly liberal bubble.
 
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Alt right…Liberal Progressive… just political phrases…got nothing to do with the teachings/beliefs of the Catholic Church…it’s bad enough how politics is the new religion in this country…just don’t pin those labels on Holy Mother Church.
 
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And this is a response to my comment how?
When Israel kills unarmed young Palestinian medics who are attending to the wounded and the gassed, it does not encourage friendly support for Israel. Rouzan al Najjar was doing nothing except to attend to those who were gassed and wounded by Israeli soldiers. I think it is wrong to kill unarmed medics.
Wait: you’re trying to justify antisemitism?
 
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Wait: you’re trying to justify antisemitism?
That is the problem. When someone opposes the killing of unarmed young Palestinian medics by soldiers of Israel, they are accused of anti-semitism? Rouzan al Najjar was an unarmed medic. Why should Israel kill unarmed Palestinian medics who are attending to the wounded and the gassed? Being opposed to these tactics of Israel does not make a person an anti-semite.
Uh, you’re the one who brought up Israel and Palestine when antisemitism on US college campuses was mentioned. So no, you can’t now claim that the two topics aren’t related when you made the connection.
 
Uh, you’re the one who brought up Israel and Palestine when antisemitism on US college campuses was mentioned. So no, you can’t now claim that the two topics aren’t related when you made the connection.
The problem as I see it is that many people who are opposed to the policies of Israel are then unjustifiably accused of being anti-semitic. I don’t see how anyone could credibly accuse the NY Times of being anti-semitic. IMHO, unarmed medics should have the right to attend to the wounded and the gassed without being shot to death as they are performing their humanitarian and charitable work.
 
This is not the first time an alleged incident was used as some justification for antisemitism. You know, the accusation of behaving like Nazis might subside if the same tactics were reused so often. However, I get the left does the same thing and get to skate on their use (like Hillary’s use of “deplorables”).
The problem as I see it is that many people who are opposed to the policies of Israel are then unjustifiably accused of being anti-semitic.
And that I get. So why the need to bring some anecdote like you did? It was not a “policy” to shoot unarmed medics. Where does the line between criticism and antisemitism exist? I draw it when specifics (like this incident) are generalized to a group.
 
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So why the need to bring some anecdote like you did?
As one example, among many as to why people oppose some of the things done by Israeli soldiers. It was mentioned that there is anti-semitism on campus. But IMHO, being in favor of a just solution to the Palestinian question is not anti-semitism.
It was not a “policy” to shoot unarmed medics.
If you watch the linked NY Times video the Israeli commander indicates that there are circumstances when the order to shoot live bullets into Gaza is given the green light. This is the policy of Israel, is it not? It seems from the examples given, including a young unarmed boy waving a white flag being shot to death, that this policy results in the death of many innocent people including unarmed medics.
 
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If you watch the linked NY Times video the Israeli commander indicates that there are circumstances when the order to shoot live bullets into Gaza is given the green light. This is the policy of Israel, is it not?
Do you really not understand this unspecific indication of a general policy and your anecdote? Really?

If not, it would be like used police being authorized to carry live ammo being a policy to shoot unarmed doctors.
 
Perhaps one of the most extreme examples of harassment was endured by Aaron Bianco, a gay man married to another man who told the New Ways ministry that he resigned from his job at a San Diego parish as a pastoral minister after more than a year of abuse.
So it took harassment from laity to get a man who is married to another man to leave. The parish and diocese didn’t mind it? And I’m supposed to think the poor people who had to endure this outrage are the ones in the wrong? If the Church isn’t going to do its job then someone has to.
 
it would be like used police being authorized to carry live ammo being a policy to shoot unarmed doctors.
The issue is not so much being authorized to carry live ammo. What is being questioned is the authorization to shoot into a crowd when such can kill unarmed medics or the authorization to kill an unarmed boy waving a white flag.
 
And I’m supposed to think the poor people who had to endure this outrage are the ones in the wrong? If the Church isn’t going to do its job then someone has to.
With death threats and vandalism. No, not acceptable.
 
Well, if it did happen I have no problem with it. Having a man supposedly married to a man working at a parish is a much more serious crime and if it won’t be addressed by the competent authority then you get mob justice which is at least justice.
 
Well, if it did happen I have no problem with it. Having a man supposedly married to a man working at a parish is a much more serious crime and if it won’t be addressed by the competent authority then you get mob justice which is at least justice.
Mob violence is not justice. I’m really sorry that you approve of death threats and vandalism. That’s very sad.
 
That’s very sad.

How would the Bishops and Holy Father react to harassment towards gay Catholics?

There are normative Church policies for dealing with employees publicly living against the faith. Those may be followed- not harassment against people.
 
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