Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

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If you read the second article, you’ll see that the Obama administration was concerned about Joe Biden’s conflict of interest. It wasn’t just Hunter Biden.

Where do it say that they had a problem with his actions regarding Shokin?

If they think Bolton can hurt Trump more than just criticizing his foreign policy, they will. They might call him just to have him say he didn’t agree in the case of this country or that country or some war Trump wouldn’t start, but I doubt it since the Bolton testimony might be really weak, which would make the Dems look even worse than they do now.

But personally, I think Bolton will want to keep “teasing” until his book comes out. I see where Bolton has already refused to sign a sworn affidavit for them.

If I were Bolton, I would be weary about getting into this as well. Even you are going to donate money to any Republican running against Mitt Romney, . . .

 

[7_Sorrows]

Russia! Russia! Russia!

And so many others - many brought out in the
impeachment trial.

Too many to list here. They started after President Trump was elected and have been telling lies about him ever since. I call them scare tactics about what a bad, bad man he is and how our country must be rescued from
him. If not, according to them the consequences are
dire. The SOTU speech showed how much he has
accomplished. That is why Nancy ripped up his speech in a very undignified and disgraceful manner.
It really makes her mad how he can continue to work
and get things done in spite of the endless attacks
they thrust upon him.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Where do it say that they had a problem with his actions regarding Shokin?

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Never said they did.

Even you are going to donate money to any Republican running against Mitt Romney, so we know that Republicans will not forgive any transgression against Trump.

I’m not a Republican, but you know that. Susan Collins voted against Trump on the issue of witnesses, but I bear her no grudge because she’s a long time RINO in a liberal state. She came by it naturally, though even as a RINO she did the right thing in the end.

Romney is just a back-stabber for whom Trump has done favors in the past, supporting him in his presidential bid and in his campaign for senate. Nobody likes a betrayer, and nobody in either party will be able to trust him in the future. Neither should the people of Utah. He just needs to go back to private life.

 

[Ridgerunner]

It really makes her mad how he can continue to work
and get things done in spite of the endless attacks
they thrust upon him.

With all due respect to you, I am not sure it was anger. She’s as cold as an arctic shark. As you know, she rehearsed it during the speech. It was calculated. My guess is that it was just like her announcing “he’s impeached forever”. It’s playing to her audience that’s so filled with hate for Trump that they want to destroy any favorable history of him.

In my judgment, whatever it’s worth, she only guaranteed her place in history, and that as a petty, vindictive harpy who was playing to a petty, vindictive partisan group. And, if anyone in the future studies the partisan politics of today, they’ll realize the intense enmity is all about abortion and therefore Pelosi’s destruction of the speech by tearing has an especially piquante irony.

 

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Russia! Russia! Russia!

The Russia thing was real and deserving of investigation. The Mueller report was not an exoneration. That certainly wasn’t a lie.

Too many to list here. They started after President Trump was elected and have been telling lies about him ever since. I call them scare tactics about what a bad, bad man he is and how our country must be rescued from
him. If not, according to them the consequences are
dire. The SOTU speech showed how much he has
accomplished. That is why Nancy ripped up his speech in a very undignified and disgraceful manner.
It really makes her mad how he can continue to work
and get things done in spite of the endless attacks
they thrust upon him.

You haven’t listed any, you listed one, which wasn’t a lie and then went on about Nancy Pelosi.

 

[Maximus1]

Democrats are champions of the Constitution and have been facing a currupt GOP who wouldn’t even call witnesses in a trial to get the boss off

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Alexander Vindman, Army Officer Who Testified Against Trump, Escorted Out Of White House

Vindman was the Ukraine expert for the National Security Council. His attorney said he was dismissed for “telling the truth.”

www.yahoo.com

White House Set To Remove Army Officer From NSC Who Testified In Impeachment Inquiry​

The White House is reportedly preparing to remove a national security official who testified about his knowledge of a July call with the Ukrainian president that set off the recently concluded impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, who, apparently emboldened by his acquittal, is beginning to punish those he perceives as enemies.

Story continued on above link

 

[Maximus1]

First he needs a 4 second trial right at the gallows to declare enemy of the people

 

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Never said they did.

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Then we should be careful because someone might read that as people in Obama’s administration thought that Biden did that specific this wrong as justification that an investigation is needed.

I’m not a Republican, but you know that

Yes, you’ve said it many times. Makes me wonder how angry the actual Republicans are.

Susan Collins voted against Trump on the issue of witnesses, but I bear her no grudge because she’s a long time RINO in a liberal state. She came by it naturally, though even as a RINO she did the right thing in the end.

Actually, she did the wrong thing because she said Trump has learned his lesson and it is clear from yesterday he did not. I’m sure she is very concerned though.

Romney is just a back-stabber for whom Trump has done favors in the past, supporting him in his presidential bid and in his campaign for senate. Nobody likes a betrayer, and nobody in either party will be able to trust him in the future. Neither should the people of Utah. He just needs to go back to private life.

How dare he call criminal behavior criminal behavior! The man has no loyalty? What is this, the mob? . . .

 

[Ridgerunner]

How dare he call criminal behavior criminal behavior!

Assuming your premise again.

 

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Assuming your premise again.

Pretty clear to those that look at it with an open mind. I don’t doubt that a mobster would have been convicted for language that Trump used, so I have no problem saying it. But Romney wasn’t loyal to the criminal so he shall be SHUNNED.

Just like the mob.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I can understand the media mourning the loss of a spy in the white house. But they shouldn’t be surprised about it. Nobody wants someone who hates him looking over his shoulder, spinning everything he hears or guesses at.

Other than perhaps seeing his being feted by the media drying up, Vindman will be perfectly comfortable in the Pentagon, I’m sure. At least Trump didn’t re-post him to some post in Afghanistan. No. He’ll have a nice chair and desk and air conditioning and a nice cafeteria where he can get his lunch whenever he feels like it.

 

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I can understand the media mourning the loss of a spy in the white house. But they shouldn’t be surprised about it. Nobody wants someone who hates him looking over his shoulder, spinning everything he hears or guesses at.

I suppose if you look at every situation based on their loyalty to Trump, you end up thinking that anyone who has anything against him is a “Trump hater” or a “spy”. No room for shades of gray.

 

[Ridgerunner]

You insist on calling Trump a criminal when even Schiff and Nadler and Pelosi didn’t do that. Tells a lot about you and your presence here.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I suppose if you look at every situation based on their loyalty to Trump, you end up thinking that anyone who has anything against him is a “Trump hater” or a “spy”.

No. But Vindman, having exposed himself as a partisan with a point of view that’s totally negative toward Trump, cannot be trusted by the Trump folks. Simple.

 

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You insist on calling Trump a criminal when even Schiff and Nadler and Pelosi didn’t do that. Tells a lot about you and your presence here.

It is what it is. Trump’s actions were criminal and to say otherwise would be to lie. Now, tell me what it says about me and my presence here.

 

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No. But Vindman, having exposed himself as a partisan with a point of view that’s totally negative toward Trump, cannot be trusted by the Trump folks. Simple.

And Romney, who showed himself to have the ability to think, is also a traitor. Really, look at your posts. Your opinion of every person comes down to whether or not they support Trump. You don’t appear to look at anything else.

 

[Ridgerunner]

And Romney, who showed himself to have the ability to think, is also a traitor. Really, look at your posts. Your opinion of every person comes down to whether or not they support Trump. You don’t appear to look at anything else.

So what if I didn’t?

But you may remember, if you wish, that I had no negative words for Susan Collins back when she voted against Trump on the witness issue, but before she voted against conviction when everyone though she would vote for it.

My problem with Romney is not that he opposed Trump per se, but that he stabbed Trump in the back after having accepted his support before. Nobody likes a betrayer.

 

[Theo520]

I believe people in the Obama administration did, indeed, have concerns about it.

They also had concerns about the Clinton Foundation, even had her sign an agreement (that she broke, without consequences)

The theme here is that the Obama admin ‘knew’ but repeatedly chose not to take action.

 

[Ridgerunner]

The theme here is that the Obama admin ‘knew’ but repeatedly chose not to take action.

That’s my impression as well.