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Protestant101
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Not even close to true.There is a SDA theology of mandatory Saturday sabbath worship – and anyone who doesn’t abide by this SDA decree receives the SDA mark of the beast.
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me_again
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That is correct. In the SDA outreach program, the SDAs quickly came to realize that if their literature said “Seventh-day Adventist” anywhere on it, then people would quickly throw it away without reading it**;** so the SDAs began printing all of their literature [for prosytelization] without their name on it. That’s how they try to get unsuspecting people into their church. Believe it or not!!!
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Rexpi
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Silly enough that Jesus himself used that expression
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Rexpi
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Thats right, not even close…
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me_again
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Yes, they are part of their SDA outreach program, similar to the JWs. Most of them refuse to declare that they are Seventh-day Adventists in their signature block at this forum because it will cause readers to be revolted.
The SDA missionaries who are attempting to convert Catholics will also choose psychologically unique user-names, such as**:**- Bible Truth
- Catholic Lover
- Etc.
That’s why the SDA literature for newcomers doesn’t have their sect’s name on it.
However, they really believe the demonic lies that were spouted by Ellen Gould White, their SDA founder, to include the following beliefs**;*** Ellen White told some of her followers that they would experience “translation” and would not die a mortal death. Ellen’s prophecy failed and they are all dead now.
- Ellen White said that some black American slaves would never be resurrected.
- In one of Ellen White’s delusional visions, she claimed to see Enoch on a far away planet with four moons.
Anyone who would believe some of these SDA cult-lies from Ellen White is indeed spiritually brainwashed with doctrines of demons.
Since SDAs believe the basic tenants of Christianity, such as the resurrection of Jesus and His promised return, that’s their “hook” to try and get new followers to join their cult. However, Adventist churches have a great deal of retaining new members (long term) because when they are eventually exposed to all these crazy heretical beliefs, they leave!!!
It’s not that easy because they are in your living room (this forum)!!! That is the singular reason why I have been so tenacious in this thread!!! :knight2:
In this one thread, many of their egregious doctrines have been exposed, so that anyone who reads it will be fully informed of what the SDAs believe!!! Knowledge is POWER!!!
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me_again
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Yes, that’s one example of blasphemy. However, you can’t take that one example and claim that it excludes using the Lord’s name in vain. You are aptly demonstrating an Adventist attempt to squash all other scriptures that don’t mesh with SDA’s cult tenancies, to include a mandatory SDA observance of the Jewish Saturday sabbath – or else get the SDA mark of the beast.Yes, of course.
The apostles told us not to use the Lord’s name in vain (blasphemy) because it’s part of the “moral” command**:*** Col. 3:8
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+3:8&version=KJV
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You were going to write that nowhere in the New Testament did the apostles tell us not to use the Lord’s name in vain**;** and then you were going to say that similarly, since the apostles also didn’t tell us in the New Testament that we have to keep the Jewish Saturday sabbath, we must similarly keep it. However, as you can see, the apostles did tell us not to use the Lord’s name in vain**;** but the apostles did not tell us to keep the Saturday Jewish sabbath.
- Mark 7:21-23
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+7:21-23&version=KJV
.- Matt. 5:37
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5:37&version=KJV
Next argument. :dts:
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The SDAs are perpetually squashing biblical scriptures that countermand Ellen White’s theories.
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me_again
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Doesn’t your SDA sect do the exact same thing when you say that if a followers gives money to your church, then they are indulged by God because He’ll give money back to them? Pot calling kettle!
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greggy53
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Who said he needed fullfilling? not me. I know you SDA don’t beleive that Jesus fullfilled the law. When you don’t like something the scripture says you re-define it to suit your beliefs.
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greggy53
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Yes as a metaphore.Silly enough that Jesus himself used that expression
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SnakeMauler
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Whats wrong with asking for forgiveness and help in your life while praying in front of a statue or “cold image,” and how is this inferior to pray in front of say, the wall in your bedroom?
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greggy53
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Silly enough that Jesus himself used that expression
Think about this way…Those who sleep cannot be dead can they?
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KathleenGee
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A priest was sharing his concept of hell…
Being in a room with no color, no pictures, no furniture, nothing of nature…no humanity…
About indulgences, that is a grace connected with the sacrament of penance and remission of sin that many Catholics themselves do not understand. It is nothing about paying your way into heaven. If you don’t understand mystical Catholic spirituality as well, nothing will suffice.
Sacramentals…early writings of Acts speak of followers of the apostles carrying pictures of them on their person…
Jesus is the fulfillment of God’s revelation to us…Jesus is True God and True Man…the SDA’s use concepts and doctrines from Catholicism – the Holy Trinity.
You have to bring everything back to your concept of Christ…otherwise people are talking over each other.
I do not like the tone and attitude SDA’s have towards Catholics.
Being in a room with no color, no pictures, no furniture, nothing of nature…no humanity…
About indulgences, that is a grace connected with the sacrament of penance and remission of sin that many Catholics themselves do not understand. It is nothing about paying your way into heaven. If you don’t understand mystical Catholic spirituality as well, nothing will suffice.
Sacramentals…early writings of Acts speak of followers of the apostles carrying pictures of them on their person…
Jesus is the fulfillment of God’s revelation to us…Jesus is True God and True Man…the SDA’s use concepts and doctrines from Catholicism – the Holy Trinity.
You have to bring everything back to your concept of Christ…otherwise people are talking over each other.
I do not like the tone and attitude SDA’s have towards Catholics.
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RonTheNewJew
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Let this Jew ask the Catholics a question:Yes, they are part of their SDA outreach program, similar to the JWs. Most of them refuse to declare that they are Seventh-day Adventists in their signature block at this forum because it will cause readers to be revolted.
No personal offense is meant towards these proselytizing SDAs, but it is duly noted that they proselytizing strategies are detected.
- Bible Truth
- Catholic Lover
- Etc.
That’s why the SDA literature for newcomers doesn’t have their sect’s name on it.
However, they really believe the demonic lies that were spouted by Ellen Gould White, their SDA founder, to include the following beliefs**;*** Ellen White told some of her followers that they would experience “translation” and would not die a mortal death. Ellen’s prophecy failed and they are all dead now.
Anyone who would believe some of these SDA cult-lies from Ellen White is indeed spiritually brainwashed with doctrines of demons.
- Ellen White said that some black American slaves would never be resurrected.
- In one of Ellen White’s delusional visions, she claimed to see Enoch on a far away planet with four moons.
Since SDAs believe the basic tenants of Christianity, such as the resurrection of Jesus and His promised return, that’s their “hook” to try and get new followers to join their cult. However, Adventist churches have a great deal of retaining new members (long term) because when they are eventually exposed to all these crazy heretical beliefs, they leave!!!
It’s not that easy because they are in your living room (this forum)!!! That is the singular reason why I have been so tenacious in this thread!!! :knight2:
In this one thread, many of their egregious doctrines have been exposed, so that anyone who reads it will be fully informed of what the SDAs believe!!! Knowledge is POWER!!!
What was/is your reason for wanting “Info On SDA?”
What was your reason for wanting information about the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses?
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greggy53
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Well for my part I never gave the SDA much thought one way or another until an aquantance who truned out to be SDA approached me about being Catholic. Thats how I got interested in the SDA thing. He pointed me to the official SDA website and after viewing some of the 'seminars" on various topics I was shocked. I’m a cradle Catholic and educated by the good sisters of the IHM for 12 years. The misinformation, and accusations made on almost every facet of Cathlolicism made on the SDA website would have been laughable except for my aquaintance took them seriously. So I did my best to give the man some good info and refernces. I’m glad I ran into this SDA guy. It encouraged me to delve into the history of my faith and do a little independant research on my own. I found that historically the Catholic Church was and is still today the original article.Since then I have been prowling this forum ready to pounce on the injustice and deciet spewed here by the SDA against the one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
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me_again
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The leader and founder of Adventism, Ellen Gould White, falsely prophesied that some of her followers (at the meeting they were at) would not see mortal death but, instead, would be translated. They are all dead now, including Ellen White. Does this false promise/prophecy alarm you at all? :sad_yes:
The SDA disinformation campaign is very intriguing. For example, the Lord Jesus said that we have consciousness when our mortal bodies die, but the SDA disinformation campaign says that the Lord Jesus is wrong e.g. SDAs teach that we don’t have consciousness at death. Does this false doctrine of soul sleep alarm you at all? :doh2:
To be baptized into Adventism, one must accept the doctrine of soul sleep. If a baptismal candidate refuses to accept the SDA doctrine of soul sleep, then baptism is denied. When the apostles began baptizing people, they were baptized into Christ and not into the doctrine of soul sleep. Denying baptism into Christ makes the SDA a cult i.e. you can only be baptized into Adventism and their kooky doctrines, to include soul sleep!!! Does denying baptism into Christ alarm you at all? :imsorry:
Information on Seventh-day Adventism is gladly being provided. Equipping readers with knowledge empowers them to make well informed choices. Does that answer the Jew’s question?
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RonTheNewJew
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Greggy,Well for my part I never gave the SDA much thought one way or another until an aquantance who truned out to be SDA approached me about being Catholic. Thats how I got interested in the SDA thing. He pointed me to the official SDA website and after viewing some of the 'seminars" on various topics I was shocked. I’m a cradle Catholic and educated by the good sisters of the IHM for 12 years. The misinformation, and accusations made on almost every facet of Cathlolicism made on the SDA website would have been laughable except for my aquaintance took them seriously. So I did my best to give the man some good info and refernces. I’m glad I ran into this SDA guy. It encouraged me to delve into the history of my faith and do a little independant research on my own. I found that historically the Catholic Church was and is still today the original article.Since then I have been prowling this forum ready to pounce on the injustice and deciet spewed here by the SDA against the one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Thanks for your reply.
I think that, on the sites of several Protestant church denominations I have read some very terse things, not only about Catholics, but also, and unfairly so, about Seventh-day Adventists, not to mention as has gone on for most of 2,000, not online of course, the Jews. Up to the mid-1950’ we were actively blamed for “killing Christ.”
It seems to me that that, when groups of good people are constantly being verbally, and in print, attacked by others, they become defensive, then decide that the best defense against the attacks is to attack the attackers. It’s a tit-for-tat thing.
I have seen it both ways on this forum. I’m sure that they feel as positive about their beliefs as you do about Catholic beliefs. The recent Sunday closing law in Germany, which gives Sunday-observing Christians a six-day week within which to sell from stores and shops, etc., only allows faithful Jews and SDAs five days for the same purposes. As a Jew, this is patently unfair. Fairness is requisite, as far as I understand it, within the beliefs as taught by Jesus Christ.
It seems to me a better way to handle that situation is to legislate that those with religious beliefs that require Saturday off, be allowed to keep their stores open on Sunday.
There are not all that many Jews and SDAs in Germany. But in Judeo-Christianity at least, fairness is required. God said in the Law, “thou shalt not oppress one another. I am the Lord.”
Peace be to you my brother in Yeshua (Jesus)
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Protestant101
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I’ve heard this excuse by Catholics quite a few times. All literature, including flyers for our crusades in this area are very clearly marked “Seventh-day Adventist.”
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me_again
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I’ve personally seen it and experienced it. When this thread was first created, 99% of the SDAs did not list their sect in the religion block in the upper right corner. However, now that this issue has been raised, a couple of them have suddenly begun listing it.
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me_again
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The Seventh-day Adventists also believe that the United States is “mystery Babylon” in the bible**;** and the SDAs believe that the U.S. will force everyone on earth to worship on Sundays. If you don’t find this to be strange, then something is wrong.
As a result of the above bizarre SDA theology and before the fall of the Soviet Union, the Russians loved the Adventists and welcomed them with open arms because many SDAs were against the U.S.
Aaround the 1950s, SDAs and JWs regularly refused to serve in the Armed Forces of the U.S., due to their strange SDA biblical interpretation that the U.S. is mystery Babylon. There were many SDA conscientious objectors.
The deeper you dig into Adventism, the stranger it gets.
Knowledge is POWER.
As a result of the above bizarre SDA theology and before the fall of the Soviet Union, the Russians loved the Adventists and welcomed them with open arms because many SDAs were against the U.S.
Aaround the 1950s, SDAs and JWs regularly refused to serve in the Armed Forces of the U.S., due to their strange SDA biblical interpretation that the U.S. is mystery Babylon. There were many SDA conscientious objectors.
The deeper you dig into Adventism, the stranger it gets.
Knowledge is POWER.
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