First of all, the verse Isaiah 7:20 is a verse of your Holy Bible, in which you believe as inspired word of God/Holy Ghost to the infallible writers who did not make any mistake
Second, the various amusing translations of this verse that I simply qouted as it is, are translated by your own Church appointed Bible scholars and not non-Christian un-infallible people.
freedomm, you’re really talking insane now. First of all this is completely off the topic of the thread, not that that’s anything new from your posts.
You know what the definition of insane is? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting something different to happen.
You have been in these forums, spouting exactly these same points and verses, for a long time. The Christian attitude to the Bible and to Holy Scriptures (which is very very different from the Islamic attitude) has been explained to you many many times. You have failed to even attempt to understand it, which you need to do if you want to refute it properly.
As you well know, neither Christians nor Jews believe that even the holiest of books are direct word-for-word and letter-for-letter from God’s mouth to the page. There is no ‘perfect’ ‘original’ version of either the Torah or the Bible, and certainly not the Quran either, close as you may try to come to it. No human could hope to infallibly transmit or record God’s words and thoughts, and I find it blasphemous of Islam to suggest that anyone can.
Let me repeat that - there is NO ‘perfect’ or ‘infallible’ or ‘one-and-only original’ copy of ANY Holy Book - not on earth and certainly not engraved up in heaven. God does not work that way, and never has. The books we have today are ALL human products of human writers and agents (whether Moses, the apostles, Mohammed’s scribes or Uthman) and necessarily imperfect as a result. They all have had and have required to have changes and explanations. Everyone who reads these posts has seen about the so-called Satanic Verses and the suras that Mohammed changed in the Quran, so don’t pretend your Quran is perfect and unchanged either.
And not to mention the following words “uttered” by Jesus found in your Holy Bibles:
- hypocrites
- blind guides
- Blind fools
- You blind ones
- full of plunder
- self-indulged
- full of dead men’s bones
- every kind of filth
- evildoers.
- the children of those who murdered the prophets
- serpents
- brood of vipers-!!!
I repeat my question:
What if one of the explicit verses such as **Isaiah 7:20 ** of your Holy Bible and the above words “uttered” by your version of Jesus, were
unfortunately found in the Holy Qur’an, then would you have left Islam and Muslims alone after reading them?
freedomm, you are very clearly neither from a Western nor Christian culture, obviously you see some extra meaning or insult in these phrases that none of the rest of us understand. If you’re going to be on our forum criticising our Holy Book, then at least make an effort to understand the perception we have of it.
They are insults, yes, Jesus insulted people who deserved it - they were his enemies but above all they were offending God by their behaviour. So do you insult people when you think they deserve it, and so do other Muslims. I haven’t read every word of the Quran, but I’m sure Mohammed is equally uncomplimentary about his enemies and the enemies of Allah.
I really do not understand what you’re trying to achieve by quoting large slabs of our Bible to us - as if we don’t already know what is written in it and as if we and our scholars haven’t already been studying it deeply and critically both as religious writing and purely as literature ever since it was written?
You haven’t said anything that is new to us nor had an objection unanswered by us. You are adding nothing new to this forum at all.