Mel Gibson Biography (1956-)
then he is still a Catholic. . . whether he has ‘affliliated’ with a group in non communion or not. . .Actor, director, producer. Born on January 3, 1956, in Peekskill, New York. Gibson was the sixth of 11 children born to Hutton and Ann Gibson, who were Roman Catholics of Irish descent. Shortly after the onset of the Vietnam War, Hutton Gibson relocated his family to Australia for fear that his sons would be drafted into battle. Mel spent the remainder of his childhood in Sydney, where he attended an all-boys Catholic high school.
I can but it would not be appropriate to post such here.Would you care to post any documentation regarding your comment that “…several of the cast were porn stars?”?
It was long after the movie came out. by then no one cared what he said one way or the other.He said “I just did it for the money” in interviews? Not that I ever saw…
not in line with Rome he isn’t.Ah…so, he is a Catholic.
no many don’t believe in Vatican II nor recognize it. They follow the old way.Oh…wait…he is not a Catholic. You have me confused. Are all traditionalists not Roman Catholic?
The man started his own church you do the math.Wikipedia? WIKIPEDIA?
Thing is, if Mel was baptized a Catholic, which appears to be the case according to Biography.com –
then he is still a Catholic. . . whether he has ‘affliliated’ with a group in non communion or not. . .
The thing about Mel is he claims Catholicism then does the opposite in his work and life.Mel Gibson is a hypocrite. He claims to be such a good Catholic; but did you ever see some of the movies he has acted in? The hypocrisy. I can not forgive him for Lethal Weapon 2. Also, he is an anglophobe and an anti-Semite (remember the drunken outburst?). Furthermore, “The Passion of the Christ” promotes sado-masochism. This is just my opinion, and you are free to disagree. [Edited by Moderator]
Excuse me. With respect, this is not ‘The Church of Mel Gibson’ and his followers the Gibsonites.The man started his own church you do the math.
The thing is, since his sin was public, and it was as we are talking about his movies which all can see, then he has to publicly apologise for those sins. Also have you or has anyone heard him recant his opinion about him denying the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass?Does the sacrament of Penance remove the sin of adultery? Do you know for fact that Mel never found contrition for his sins?
There is not one of us that has not committed a mortal sin in our lifetimes. This is why we have a Savior.
Personally I don’t care what he is one way or the other.Excuse me. With respect, this is not ‘The Church of Mel Gibson’ and his followers the Gibsonites.
In so far as Church law is concerned, Mr. Gibson is a baptized Catholic and a Catholic he remains. Whether he is a Catholic who is practicing his Catholicism in communion with Rome may be doubtful; whether he is a ‘good’ person or a “good” Catholic is between him and God. . .
Actually there are as many canon lawyers out there who say that even a formal oral or written abjuration of the faith is still not enough to make the person ‘not Catholic’ as there are those who say that a person ‘could’ formally renounce his faith. And I have found remarkably little evidence of any given person actually ‘saying’ or ‘performing’ a ‘formal abjuraton’. I believe that those not in full communion with Rome who consider themselves traditionalists are schismatic, which means Mr. Gibson may be a Catholic in schism. . .but he is still Catholic.
Personally I don’t care what he is one way or the other.Excuse me. With respect, this is not ‘The Church of Mel Gibson’ and his followers the Gibsonites.
In so far as Church law is concerned, Mr. Gibson is a baptized Catholic and a Catholic he remains. Whether he is a Catholic who is practicing his Catholicism in communion with Rome may be doubtful; whether he is a ‘good’ person or a “good” Catholic is between him and God. . .
Actually there are as many canon lawyers out there who say that even a formal oral or written abjuration of the faith is still not enough to make the person ‘not Catholic’ as there are those who say that a person ‘could’ formally renounce his faith. And I have found remarkably little evidence of any given person actually ‘saying’ or ‘performing’ a ‘formal abjuraton’. I believe that those not in full communion with Rome who consider themselves traditionalists are schismatic, which means Mr. Gibson may be a Catholic in schism. . .but he is still Catholic.
The Holy Father meets with far worse people than Mel but that doesn’t change who they are. E.g. Bill Clinton (at least 3 or 4 times)Pope John Paul 2 received Mel as one of his flock prior to the release of “The Passion.” Were he a schismatic, and a celebrity figure worldwide, the personal encounter with His Holiness would never had taken place.
Mel Gibson is as Catholic as you or I, no doubt about it.
Mel has appeared on the Catholic TV network EWTN a number of times. He had a sort of fireside chat with Raymond Arooyo for the full length of the one-hour show…more than one occasion.You may disagree if you wish your choice. I have heard him talk way to many times. I have heard him talk about his faith as well. He still did it for the money and has more or less said that in interviews since. As far as the movie goes the King of Kings did more for me than the passion ever could. Contrary to your experiences most folks I know didn’t much care for it either. Folks get more into glorifiying mel here and his movie then Christ IMHO. btw did you know several of the cast were porn stars ? didn’t think so.
I’ll agree with one aspect of your “public apology” requirement. The only “public apology” to my mind is the sin of ABORTION as a public endorser of that heinous sin. There must also be “public restitution” for such a great sin.The thing is, since his sin was public, and it was as we are talking about his movies which all can see, then he has to publicly apologise for those sins. Also have you or has anyone heard him recant his opinion about him denying the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass?
True, the Holy Father met with the Clintons and other heads of State…but these are all diplomatic sessions since the Vatican is is City/State entity. The pope meets with Red China. Korea et al and his primary concern in those meetings is to appeal for the freedom of his flock in those atheistic countries.The Holy Father meets with far worse people than Mel but that doesn’t change who they are. E.g. Bill Clinton (at least 3 or 4 times)
I can recall the occasion of the woman caught in adultery and the woman (Mary Magdelein) whose sins of impurity were so vast she shed her repentant tears on the Savior’s feet; then dried his feet with her hair.I can but it would not be appropriate to post such here.
I will give an example though and you can do the search yourself. MONICA BELLUCCI played Mary Magdalene. She starred in a movied called ‘Irreversible’. It was so hard core that folks walked out of the cannes fim festival upon viewing it.
You contradict yourself in one breath saying how great Mel is because he appeared on a Catholic program and I guess that means we should support him but in the same breath you have nothing kind to say about the Archbishop. To me that is a problem because though you might have some legit complaints about the Archbishop he still has the authority and at the same time you ignore a lot of issues in regards to Mel which are quite questionable to say the least. I never stated once Mel isn’t Catholic but he is not a good example of any Catholic I wish to emulate.Mel has appeared on the Catholic TV network EWTN a number of times. He had a sort of fireside chat with Raymond Arooyo for the full length of the one-hour show…more than one occasion.
The conversations were principally about the Faith and never was Mel in contradiction with the Faith. He is a devout Catholic who has found his spiritual connect with the Church.
Mel Gibson is the consumate family man and has always fought for the unborn in one way or another.
As for the LA Diocese headed by Archbishop Mahoney well, that’s is for YOUR spiritual instincts to discern whether or not the Archbishop is a true shepard.
We are warned by Our Lord in the end times there will be false prophets…sooner or later some will recognize a “false shepard” when he shows himself.
The Holy Spirit infuses us with the wisdom to see. All we have to do is just ask for the Light.
good pointThe Holy Father meets with far worse people than Mel but that doesn’t change who they are. E.g. Bill Clinton (at least 3 or 4 times)