Mormonism, Catholicism and Devoutness

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Thank you for that Formon. So that sexual Marriage vow for Mormons, do they consider the same vow, should a Mormon have more than one wife? And are the Mormons vows for life to that one Marriage and divorce is not allowed?

Are these Vows taken by all Mormons or just the elders?
 
Now that is interesting. Can you name these Protestant monastic communities and what country they reside? We can keep it on topic here, if you can prove their vows are similar or not to Mormonism. I am very interested in understanding such vows of devoutness compared to Mormonism.
 
The vows are taken in the temple endowment ceremony by everyone who participates whether it be elders, high priests, or women, married, widowed or single. While Mormons can only have one living spouse at a time, they can be married/sealed to multiple spouses. Men can be sealed to as many women as the circumstances permit. Women under most conditions will only be sealed to one husband, sometimes two.
 
Hello there I am exmormon actually. Was a member my whole life. While I agree on some points of what you said I have to let you know LOTS of Mormons are resigning! If you go to exmormon on Reddit there are 176,000 members! The age of technology has helped members learn the truth about the history and doctrines. Another fact half of all Mormons are inactive. It’s true however that the devout ones are very faithful!
I am studying Catholicism and learning hoping to join soon! Ty
 
It is heartwarming to hear. I hope your journey into Catholicism is as blessed as mine has been.
 
And are the Mormons vows for life to that one Marriage and divorce is not allowed?
Divorce is allowed but most bishops do everything they can to save the marriages. If the marriage was sealed in the temple, there’s a process to get the sealing removed or canceled, similar to a Catholic annulment, although much easier to get.
 
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Just wanted to correct myself . I said half of all Mormons are inactive its actually 60% in the USA and 70% worldwide according to Wikipedia! And if you google “ Mormons leaving in droves “ several articles pop up about it. Just wanted some info to back myself up! Ty
 
My question is: Why do so many Catholics not follow the Catholic Church’s teachings despite the Church having a much stronger intellectual tradition, more evidence, and a much stronger claim to have the truth than any other religion? Why higher percentages of Mormons (and Evangelicals) appear to follow natural law on abortion, gay marriage, etc. than self-professed Catholics"do?
The answer is simple: because too many Catholics are no longer properly taught about their faith by their Catholic parents. One learns about their faith primary from one’s parents while growing up: be it Catholics, Mormons, Protestants, Orthodox, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc…

Each successive generation of Catholic parents living in 1st World countries appear to have done a worse job than the previous generation of Catholic parents in teaching their children about their Catholic faith.

That’s the answer to your question.
 
Being a devout Mormon is not really a good thing, because it is devout idolatry (their god is a creature), which is incompatible with supernatural faith. Even a bad Catholic acknowledges one God, creator of Heaven and Earth, which is the first step necessary to come to God. That’s a big first step a devout Mormon still needs to take.

In any event, as St. Gregory the Great put it:
And it should not frighten you that in the Church the bad are many and the good few. For the Ark, which in the midst of the Flood was a figure of this Church, was wide below and narrow above, and at the summit measured but one cubit (Genesis vi, 16). And we are to believe that below were the four-footed animals and serpents, above the birds and men. It was wide where the beasts were, narrow where men lived: for the Holy Church is indeed wide in the number of those who are carnal minded, narrow in those who are spiritual. For where she suffers the morals and beastly ways of men, there she enlarges her bosom. But where she has the care of those whose lives are founded on spiritual things, these she leads to the higher place; but since they are few, this part is narrow. Wide indeed is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction; and many there are who go in thereat. How narrow is the gate that leadeth to life; and few there are that find it!
 
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I wouldn’t ask you to explain why the Mormon church changes its doctrine. I have been there. I already know.
Please share examples in which Latter-day Saint doctrine changed.
Hello there I am exmormon actually. Was a member my whole life. While I agree on some points of what you said I have to let you know LOTS of Mormons are resigning! If you go to exmormon on Reddit there are 176,000 members! The age of technology has helped members learn the truth about the history and doctrines. Another fact half of all Mormons are inactive. It’s true however that the devout ones are very faithful!
I am studying Catholicism and learning hoping to join soon! Ty
As a devout Latter-day Saint I’m always curious to hear how former Latter-day Saints undergo changes in doctrinal belief. How does the doctrine of the Trinity sit with you, if you care to share? Thanks in advance.
 
Being a devout Mormon is not really a good thing, because it is devout idolatry (their god is a creature), which is incompatible with supernatural faith.
I’m a devout Latter-day Saint and believe you are mistaken in your understanding. However, I’d like to understand what you believe “creature” means. Thanks.
 
Please share examples in which Latter-day Saint doctrine changed.
The 17 August 1949 official Mormon statement from the first presidency on Blacks and the priesthood was declared as doctrine.

D&C 101:4 was changed by Section 132.
 
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The Mormon god is not the single self-actualized principle of all being, but a divinized being with a distinct beginning among a multiplicity of such beings. Created human beings walking the earth now aspire to become the same (a misunderstanding of orthodox theosis).
The Prophet Joseph Smith himself publicly taught the doctrine the following year, 1844, during a funeral sermon of Elder King Follett: “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! … It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did.”
“This is a doctrine which delighted President Snow, as it does all of us. Early in his ministry he received by direct, personal revelation the knowledge that (in the Prophet Joseph Smith’s language), ‘God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens,’ and that men ‘have got to learn how to be Gods … the same as all Gods have done before.’
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org...may-be-accepted-as-official-doctrine?lang=eng
 
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Yeah and what did President Hinckley answer when he was asked about it? Something like, “That’s more of a couplet than anything and gets into some deep doctrine that we don’t know much about.”

Joseph Smith said it was a true doctrine and Hinckley knew that.
 
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The Mormon god is not the single self-actualized principle of all being, but a divinized being with a distinct beginning among a multiplicity of such beings. Created human beings walking the earth now aspire to become the same (a misunderstanding of orthodox theosis).
This is very interesting. I am not a Mormon, but I believe in something quite similar. There is an Universal God(s) as well as Planetary Gods. So when we worship, we are really worshiping the local ‘Earth’ God who was of course created by the Universal God. I wonder where the Mormon belief originated. Does Smith claim that this was revealed to him or did the ‘tablets’ say so?
 
It’s interesting that you mention the “tablets”. The Book of Mormon which supposedly came from the tablets does not even closely describe the God of Mormonism. Read the Book of Mormon and see what it says about:

God having once been a man. Nothing

God having worked out his salvation as a mortal and earning Godhood. Nothing

God having fathered Jesus by sexual relations with Mary. Nothing

God having a body of flesh and bones. Nothing

God being a polygamist. Nothing

God is eternally progressing. Nothing

That we can become Gods. Nothing

I could go on …
 
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It’s interesting that you mention the “tablets”. The Book of Mormon which supposedly came from the tablets does not even closely describe the God of Mormonism. Read the Book of Mormon and see what it says about:

God having once been a man. Nothing

God having worked out his salvation as a mortal and earning Godhood. Nothing

God having fathered Jesus by sexual relations with Mary. Nothing

God having a body of flesh and bones. Nothing

God being a polygamist. Nothing

I could go on …
So it looks like these are not actual beliefs in their scripture, but just somethings that some of their leaders have claimed over the years. Which part of this list is actually accepted by all Mormons?
 
Mormons argue amongst themselves over a lot of doctrine. They make stuff up as they go. For instance if you studied the older prophets of Mormonism you would find many references to God having sex with Mary but today’s younger Mormons try to distance themselves from it. Brigham Young taught a lot of things as doctrine that today’s Mormons reject. Such as the Adam-God doctrine.
 
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