Please don’t guess and make assumptions, it is rude.
Please answer my questions.
How can you use the founding fathers as an example here?
Pope Benedict is telling the TRUTH, quoteing historic fact!!! The truth is hard to take, especially if it exposes your own beliefs.
doesn’t matter. washingtons farewell address contains universal truths that apply to any given time and situation. no nation is perfect, no lives can be made perfect and government is the last thing that can do that, but you wanna see a solution to many of our nation and worlds problems? look at that tiny, overlooked place smack in the middle of europe called switzerland. they have no standing army, just private militias. they have some of the lowest tax rates in the world, they have no welfare, no massive police surveilance programs, they have a gold standard free market economy, and they are neutral in foreign affairs.and guess what? they have no terrorist threats, no massive debt, no bloated buerocracy, no politicians claiming to have a solution to every problem, no govt stealing peoples weapons or hard earned money, no domestic or lobby groups. now THATS what i call a great nation.
Actually, the founding fathers of the US did face a part of this problem with the pirates coming out of Tripoli and sinking our shipping in the Mediterranean Sea. We fought them.
ok fine. want a solution? heres what we can at least do in the meantime. pull out of the region and instead engage in equal diplomacy with all nations (do this not just in the middle east but the enire world) and dont favor any nation in that part of the world over others. dont do any arms sales. tell them that from now on the US will be a neutral albeit peaceful partner in foreign affairs. if you do this, the radicals will suddenly have a heart attack. why? because our unconditional support for israel, invasions of afghanistan and iraq are being used as successful propaganda by the extremists as proof that we are there to conquer and destroy them. but take away those tripwires, and suddenly the likes of bin laden and gang will realize that they no longer have any reason to rally supporters. of course you will have them trying to do overthrows of govts even after that, but as the last 20 years have shown the majority in the middle east favor moving forward and becoming modernised vs the backwards and archaic mentality of these nitwits. and as i said in another post that region is simply of a tribal mindset that will always be with them for the forseeable future. As far as religous dialogue, I’ll leave that up to the vatican to decide the best ways to deal with that
Hey, Vatican City State has many of these qualities and is indeed smaller.
I dont see how im the one being off-topic if you keep asking me all these questions i gotta answer
let OBL live in his dream world… it aint gonna happen. it is just as concivable as hitler’s belief in a 1000 year reich. and that didnt exactly turn out according to plan now did it?
Start a thread in the War on Terrorism forum and I will show you how it can happen.
James
It was an academic speech gave to a group of theologians. The MM picked up one brief section, quoted it out of context and the rest is History.
Right, in these forums, it’s difficult to tell what a person is actually saying, so why not just read what I said? I was commenting on the Pope’s wisdom, in using such words in his lecture, and yes, I have read it in it’s context. It still doesn’t change the fact that he should know, that refering to a document from the 1400’s which describes Islam as inhumane, would set off a firestorm in the Muslim world.
The Pope included in his lecture a document from the 1400’s, which describes Islam as inhumane. That’s what incendiary, regardless of whether you think it should be or not.