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MaryT777
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I’m just thankful nobody got shot on this Zimmerman watch.
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lcburgundy
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So why didn’t TM make it home? Why didn’t he call 911? Why didn’t he knock on anyone’s door?
You’re an expert on civil litigation too? Goodness.
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SwizzleStick
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No, I did not mean that someone who disagrees with me is uninformed. I tried to explain what I meant. Zimmerman cannot be tried for the same crime twice, he has already had his trial and been found not guilty. It is my understanding that in Florida, Zimmerman can’t be liable for civil damages since he has been found not guilty. Hate crime laws have been discussed, but the FBI has already investigated and found nothing to indicate racism. DOJ might try to come up with something and they might succeed or they might just be trying to placate those who don’t know about the limitations mentioned.
Have you not heard about the scandal a day circus? Corruption definitely exists in the current regime, that is no conspiracy theory.
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maryjk
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Time to drag out the dead horse again.
MaryT777,
You have already tried to use this a proof that Zimmerman did something wrong. Someone has already explained that the HOA didn’t HAVE to settle. They decided to settle. Many times insurance companies will settle rather than fight a law suit. This happens because it is cheaper to settle than to pay the lawyers to duke it out in court.
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SamH
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Not everyone acts like Martin.
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SamH
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A lot of time times the client isn’t even given the option. It’s the insurance company’s liability - they will handle it the way they feel is best for them.
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SamH
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What’s this “we” stuff?
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7_Sorrows
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he didn’t need a ride. he was within 100 yards of his dad’s girlfriend’s house.
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LisaA
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He didn’t need a ride, he was outside, killing time or whatever. Aside from that at one point according to Jeantel he was in his father’s backyard. But what point are facts when you can gin up racial animosity and create headlines
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7_Sorrows
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exactly!! I like what bill o’reilly had to say the other night on his program. he was right on with what the real problem is.
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St_Francis
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Again we are back to your original stand. There is absolutely no evidence for your fantasy. What evidence there is supports Zimmerman’s story, which he told police before he had a lawyer, before he knew about any witness statements, and which he did not change upon being told that the encounter might have been videotaped: in fact, upon hearing this he replied Thank God!!!
The is not a mark or scratch on Martin, Zimmerman looked like this:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/admin/ed-assets/2013/07/1204-Zimmerman-bloody-nose_full_600.jpg
Seconds before he fired, a witness saw Martin “pound and grounding” Zimmerman “MMA-style.”
Martin told Jeantel he was by his father’s fiancee’s home, but ended up *back *near Zimmerman’s truck, in a fairly unlit place. Why was that? Jeantel said Martin was afraid Zimmerman would follow him home, so instead of calling the police, returning to the store by a different route, or continuing out through the back gate near where he was staying to stand on the better-lit main road?
No, instead we find Martin in a dark place–why? Nearer to where he had seen the “creepy-*** cracker” than to a number of places which would have been safer for him to be–why?
This is a common tactic for corporations: they look at the cost of settling and the cost of litigating, and pick the least expensive. Knowing how much more they might have to pay out if there were a guilty verdict, they worked towards a settlement.
In fact, in many of these cases, it is the insurance company’s call.
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lcburgundy
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It’s solely the insurance company’s call for most policies. They are required to fulfill the terms of your policy with them. As a policyholder, in most situations, you have no authority at all on legal or settlement strategy.
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LisaA
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This is absolutely correct. In the insurance contract you subrogate your rights to make that decision… My doctors have malpractice insurance and they have very little influence over whether or not a case is fought or settled.
In the case of the HOA, the bad publicity, the concern of an even larger award should Zimmerman have been found guilty would all work toward a quick and for insurance purposes cheap settlement.
What amazes me is that after unsubscribing from this thread I see the same posters saying the same thing…I know this issue was discussed at least three times already.
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meltzerboy
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Was there evidence that proved Martin was casing the houses?
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LisaA
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Yes I agree with O’Reilly. What was funny was the next day he read a sample of responses and those who didn’t agree with him, instead of actually positing a different theory and supporting evidence simply called him names. WEAK WEAK WEAK thy name is the Left
If you don’t have evidence, call the person names or set up a straw man to knock down. It’s truly pathetic that their apparent lack of concern over hundreds of deaths of black youth at the hands of other black youth, of the high drop out rate, incarceration and unemployment of blacks, particularly young black males makes a mockery of their cries “Justice for Trayvon.”
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LisaA
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He APPEARED to be casing the homes…no one can “prove” he was actually casing them although it later came out he was likely involved in a previous burglary.
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meltzerboy
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Lisa, you are already suspect to many (not only liberals) when you say you agree with Bill O’Reilly! LOL Admittedly though, even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day.
Why a mockery? Can’t and don’t they have concern for both?
meltzerboy
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What does that mean: “likely” involved? Zimmerman was charged with domestic violence. Does the history of either of them have any legal bearing on the case?
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LisaA
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Actually O’Reilly isn’t like Hannity who is what I call my Kool Aid guy. He is relatively candid and not afraid to be politically incorrect. Yes he is conservative but not a nut. This was with respect to a particular “Talking Points” regarding the real problems in the black community…and it’s aint a pudgy half Hispanic named George Zimmerman
Did you happen to hear this one? I rarely listen to or watch O’Reilly but happened to be in my car when he did this part of the show.
If you look for example at the series of photos of Trayvon Martin you see an adorable boy with sparkling eyes and impish grin morph into a snarling, gold toothed, bird flipping “gangsta” guy. I realize that this is more acceptable on the streets of NYC than my hometown but the point is that this is a young man who looked to have a solid family life. According to reports on Martin, he unraveled after his father’s second divorce (hey at least he was married to the mother for a while) was in trouble at school, was bounced from mom to dad and out of control. I think it’s no coincidence that he was aimlessly wandering around on a rainy night and while not looking for trouble, he found it.
My stepson is almost 16. Close to the age of Trayvon Martin. I assure you he doesn’t wander around at night, unsupervised, no one knowing what he’s doing or where he’s going. This was a kid in trouble and unfortunately his parents were unable to deal with it. Multiply Martin and Jeantel but hundreds of thousands of other such kids…all colors fwiw…and you have a very sad future for a lot of America’s youth.
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LisaA
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No because neither were introduced during the trial. However, the point being that Martin’s behavior was suspicious in the context of recent burglaries in the neighborhood. That it was later revealed that Martin was found with ladies’ jewelry and burglary tools in his locker (hence his suspension) it simply adds to the credibility of Zimmerman who was probably more aware than the average citizen of what “casing” looks like.
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