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Xarto
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Let’s try this again.
Nothing you are saying has anything to do with abortion and gay marriage.
Nothing you are saying has anything to do with abortion and gay marriage.
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Anesti33
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I don’t know. Growing up in the 80s near a heavily homosexual community, I knew what they were busy doing. There were bathhouses where they had anonymous sex, there were bars where they picked each other up and took each other home, and there were private parties where anything went.
There were not yet “Pride Parades” where the depravity was on full display.
As I left the nest for Silicon Valley, I had yet a wider view of homosexuality as it was practiced in San Francisco. There was the Castro District, Folsom Street, numerous clubs and bars. As a goth boy who liked to go dancing, I found my home mostly in gay bars that welcomed straight goths, who in turn were immensely tolerant of homosexuality, BDSM, and other depravity.
That is my contact with people who identified as homosexual, and were, for the most part, out of the closet. I went to school with several who were in the closet. I can’t speak for men and women who lived chastely, or married each other and put up a veneer of heterosexuality, I didn’t really detect those situations.
So it seems that there was a lot of depravity from the get-go amongst homosexuals. I don’t think I got the wrong idea from one parade, my insight was for the systemic and prevalent behavior of a group on a large spectrum.
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Freddy
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Same with me. When I was growing up there were bars all over the city where they used to meet up and pair off. Quite often it would lead to sex. They seemed to swap partners frequently. There was a ‘lovers lane’ where they used to make out in tbe back of cars. There’d be parties in private houses where they were openly amorous with each other. The bedroom was often in use.Cirdan_XII:
I don’t know. Growing up in the 80s near a heavily homosexual community, I knew what they were busy doing. There were bathhouses where they had anonymous sex, there were bars where they picked each other up and took each other home, and there were private parties where anything went.
Edit: Sorry, I was talking about heterosexuals then. But the principle is the same. Isn’t it?
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Maximian
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Yes. Id did say “hard left.”
I have never been left wing but I mourn the disappearance of the honest left. It used to be possible to have left wing friends with whom one could discuss ideas without being accused of being a nazi. Not any more.
I have never been left wing but I mourn the disappearance of the honest left. It used to be possible to have left wing friends with whom one could discuss ideas without being accused of being a nazi. Not any more.
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Cirdan_XII
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I know what you’re talking about. But not all homosexuals are part of that or support that. The guy I mentioned previously is shocked by this bevaiour and doesn’t have a problem with it being suppressed.
And I am sure he is not alone with his opinion.
Being anti excess is not the same as being anti homosexual.
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Anesti33
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No, not at all.
Homosexuals lived in one neighborhood; they had a concentrated presence. The neighborhood was permeated with bars, gyms, bathhouses, and cruising spots. From my perspective, they seemed to do nothing else but party. Very unlike heterosexuals who had a variety of activities not focused on sexuality.
Homosexuals lived in one neighborhood; they had a concentrated presence. The neighborhood was permeated with bars, gyms, bathhouses, and cruising spots. From my perspective, they seemed to do nothing else but party. Very unlike heterosexuals who had a variety of activities not focused on sexuality.
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Anesti33
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It is interesting to see a “different face” emerge, the face of a “respectable” homosexual, who’s horrified by all this sex stuff, and just wants to “marry” his husband, adopt a few kids and furbabies, and lead a quiet, inoffensive suburban life.
Perhaps they were legion and in the closet. But this is a drastically different attitude from the ones I saw, growing up nearby.
Perhaps they were legion and in the closet. But this is a drastically different attitude from the ones I saw, growing up nearby.
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Anesti33
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Yes, totally unlike them.
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Cirdan_XII
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Interestingly, he also doesn’t believe homosexuals should adopt kids.
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Anesti33
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Let analyze adoption by homosexuals and see if it makes sense.Anesti33:
Interestingly, he also doesn’t believe homosexuals should adopt kids.
In the first case, we have agencies who place children who have been placed by parents who can’t keep them. It’s a loving act by the parents just to give them life and hand them on. The adoption by homosexuals denies the child of her right to one mother and one father, a right which is fundamental and formative for all human beings.
Then we have surrogacy of various flavors and adoption from the surrogate mother. This is wholly immoral by Catholic standards and Duda is right to oppose it. A surrogate child will be taken away from his mother, whether or not she wants to keep him–that’s irrelevant in such a legal agreement. The birth certificate will be a lie and conceal the real birth mother, more often than not. Plus the fundamental rights problem of adoption above.
Finally we have IVF. There may be other ways that homosexuals can have children, but I can’t think of them right now. IVF is, again, fundamentally immoral and opposed by Duda on appropriate grounds. Nobody should ever be conceived in IVF, gay or straight. IVF involves many abortions because the embryos are “culled” to have the best ones born and no “Octomom” cases. Will the homosexual couple adopt all the children that result from an IVF session? Probably not. Plus all above problems, including surrogacy if there is no “mother” in the homosexual union to bear a child herself.
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Freddy
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There were quite a few gay bars down the main drag leading into the city back in the day. Specifically because they were places a gay person could go and not get his or her sexuality being pointed out in agressive terms by other drinkers. Where they could go and socialise without the fear of being beaten up. And (gasp) do what another young people were doing all over the city in all the other bars and look for a sexual partner.
There’s shortly to be a monument erected in a local park on the headland in memory of all the gay people murdered because they were gay in the 70’s and 80’s. But that’s mostly in the past. Now there’s only one or two of those bars left. They’ve become an anachronism because nobody - correction, very few people, treat gays any differently to the way they treat their heterosexual friends.
It used to be the case that if you were talking about someone and they were gay, then that fact would be mentioned sotto voce almost as a warning. Now you could know someone for months and not know they were gay. Not because they were hiding it but because it’s not a point worth mentioning any more.
There’s a Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras still held every year in Sydney. It started off as a march in support of gay rights. Some kids were beaten up by the police in the first march. Now it’s more a celebration akin to a Rio mardis gras. Including a lot of overt sexuality. But there are police floats and armed forces floats and the PM makes an appearance and everyone is in party mode. But the attendence is getting less and less. People used to tun out in the hundreds of thousands to line the streets to support their friends, their dad, their workmates.
Now…not so much. Not because we care less but because they don’t need this overt support any more. It’s old hat. My grandkids will grow up asking ‘You had parades supporting gay people? Huh? What was that all about?’
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boldlygo
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This is only said by those who quote the old Masters & Johnson ‘study’ from the 50’s, a ‘study’ which was terribly flawed, but which is still cited. Actual figures are much lower…2.2% +/- 0.4% non-heterosexual, of which 1.2% are bisexuals.
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angelo
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We need more leaders that have reverence to our Lord. Please pray for all nations. God bless all God’s children.
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Paddy1989
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Glad to see this President stand for Christian values and against a movement that seeks to destroy the institution of marriage and normalize the LGBTQI+ ideology
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Reverent_Howler
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There were a few rainbow flags flying here during “Pride Month”, a certain Fortune 500 company and certain churches. Also the US embassy in Moscow.
We used to see rainbow windsocks and stickers for “De Colores” here also, whatever that was. A diminuitive comedian, commenting as a leprechaun, declared “I want my rainbow back”.
We used to see rainbow windsocks and stickers for “De Colores” here also, whatever that was. A diminuitive comedian, commenting as a leprechaun, declared “I want my rainbow back”.
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Thorolfr
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How do you know what the “actual figures” are? No one knows for sure. All we have are estimates. The Williams Institute at the University of California, Los Angeles School of Law estimates that LGBT people make up about 4.5% of the US population which would still be over 13 million people. A Gallup Poll in 2017 also concluded that about 4.5% of the US population identify as LGBT.ATraveller:
Actual figures are much lower…2.2% +/- 0.4% non-heterosexual, of which 1.2% are bisexuals.
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weak
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Must have missed the memo on what the gay agenda entailed.
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boldlygo
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We’ve been through this before…more than once. Polls can be biased. Estimates from ‘left coast’ sources? Worldwide anecdotal evidence, using statistical methods from various sources, has consistently yielded the ‘actual figures’ I stated, over a period of many years. [A British poll in 2014 found that full one-third of the population will lie on polls concerning intimacy…]
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Freddy
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It’s a bit early here and I haven’t had my coffee yet. But did you just quote a poll asking questions about intimacy which concluded that 33% of people would lie when asked questions about intimacy?
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hvizsgyak
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Finally a reasonable voice in a sea of nonsense. Thank you.
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