QAnon Supporter, Wins GOP House Primary in Georgia

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And the beat goes on. I guess Trump’s qualifier for extreme groups are if they “like” him. So the attempts to link him to the alt-right and to white supremacist groups are not really unfair, since they like him, too.

" President Trump on Wednesday offered encouragement to proponents of QAnon, a viral conspiracy theory that has gained a widespread following among people who believe the president is secretly battling a criminal band of sex traffickers, and suggested that its proponents were patriots upset with unrest in Democratic cities.

“I’ve heard these are people that love our country,” Mr. Trump said during a White House news conference ostensibly about the coronavirus. “So I don’t know really anything about it other than they do supposedly like me.”

When told by a reporter about the central premise of the QAnon theory — a belief that Mr. Trump is saving the world from a satanic cult made up of pedophiles and cannibals connected to Democratic Party figures, so-called deep-state actors and Hollywood celebrities — Mr. Trump did not question the validity of the movement or the truth of those claims.

Instead, he offered his help.

“Is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing?” the president said lightly, responding to a reporter who asked if he could support that theory. “If I can help save the world from problems, I am willing to do it. I’m willing to put myself out there.”

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Trump Says QAnon Followers Are People Who ‘Love Our Country’ (Published 2020)

When asked, the president did not question the truth behind the claims of the QAnon conspiracy movement. Instead, he offered his help.
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The FBI calls the group a terrorist threat and Trump (while saying he’s not familiar with them) says they ‘love the country’? He’s just making hare-brained statements now.
 
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" The party takes its cue from a deeply disturbed and easily bamboozled president who will adopt any theory or embrace any person who likes him — whether it be Greene or Vladimir Putin or Kim Jong Un or QAnon. The only requirement is that praise be lavished upon him. This is deeply unhealthy and dangerous for any democracy, which requires a modicum of good faith and adherence to reality.

Republicans often turn a blind eye (Didn’t see the tweet!) toward Trump’s racist and misogynistic outbursts. Those who do know better go along with the craziness hoping to be rewarded in the post-Trump GOP. In the meantime, the party has devolved into a cesspool of bigotry and mind-numbing conspiracies, with a large dollop of science denial. When a party wants to honor at its convention the couple who waved weapons at peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters, you have to conclude that it’s not only lost touch with Americans but also with decency and reality."

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Nepperhan said:
Republicans often turn a blind eye (Didn’t see the tweet!) toward Trump’s racist and misogynistic outbursts.
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This is a lie, but that doesn’t stop WAPO, as it has been a purveyor of lies for 4 years now.
You yourself mentioned Speaker Ryan’s criticism of Trump, but all is well. It serves the smear in an election year.
 
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" Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor and primary opponent of the president in 2016, tweeted his displeasure with Trump’s remarks on the group, whose conspiracy theories the FBI said in 2019 "very likely motivate some domestic extremists."

“Why in the world would the President not kick Q’anon supporters’ butts? Nut jobs, rascists, haters have no place in either Party,” he wrote, misspelling “racists.”

Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska told NBC News in a statement, “Q-Anon is nuts — and real leaders call conspiracy theories conspiracy theories.”

Republicans should consider the possible electoral consequences of Trump’s comments, he said.

“If Democrats take the Senate, blow up the filibuster, and pack the Supreme Court — garbage like this will be a big part of why they won,” Sasse said. “Real leaders call conspiracy theories conspiracy theories.”

Rep. Adam Kinzinger, a Republican from Illinois, tweeted "a reminder of QAnon’s track record” and said, “Let’s be clear, Complete BS.”

“Whoever wrote this does not ‘love our country’ they seek to mislead and destroy it,” he wrote.

On a Fox News panel, GOP strategist and former George W. Bush adviser Karl Rove said Trump “ought to disavow” QAnon, which he called “a group of nuts and kooks.”

“They may like him, but they like him because they think he is fighting an incredible war against forces of ‘pedographic’ evil, and it’s just ridiculous,” Rove said, referring to the group’s pedophilia conspiracy theory. “Disavow them, get done with it.”

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Trump's QAnon embrace draws GOP backlash

“Why in the world would the president not kick QAnon supporters’ butts?” former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush tweeted.
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Republicans do turn a blind eye.

"Fearful of inviting similar blowback, few other elected Republicans have been willing to speak out publicly. Mostly, they avoid questions about it, demonstrating the thin line some officials are trying to walk between extreme elements among their base who adore Mr. Trump and the moderate voters they need to win over…

But far more than any congressional candidate, it is Mr. Trump and his campaign surrogates who are normalizing QAnon inside the Republican Party.

Language, images and ideas drawn from QAnon are now a regular feature of messages from the campaign. No voter, it seems, is too extreme to be ignored, as Eric Trump, the president’s son, demonstrated in June ahead of a rally in Tulsa, Okla.

On Instagram, he posted and then later deleted an image that featured an American flag emblazoned with black text that read, “Who’s ready for the Trump Rally tonight.” Behind the words, fainter but clearly visible, was a large letter “Q.”

And just in case the message was not clear enough, running along the bottom of the flag was a popular QAnon hashtag, #WWG1WGA, which stands for “Where We Go One, We Go All.” The post was later deleted."

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The Republican Embrace of QAnon Goes Far Beyond Trump (Published 2020)

As the president all but endorses the internet-driven conspiracy theory, it is shifting from the fringes of the internet to become an offline political movement.
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Jeanne_S said:
Jim Jordan would be a good candidate to pick up the torch from Trump in four years from now
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You need to examine his record at Ohio State. Right now he is simply an ambitious Trump apologist without much gravitas.
 
JonNC said:
Oh, New York Times, a beacon of racist writings. The pit’s view of the kettle is unconvincing.
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A whole lotta ad hominem going on … You should comment on what was said.
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But we’re expected to assume Biden innocent.
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Of course, since I don’t even know the charges.

I know the charges and evidence against Jordan. What I said is folks should examine them. The rest was my opinion.
 
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Yeah, just what we need. More people who are detached from reality making laws and decisions that affect the entire country. Life is grand.

Greene supported the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory, saying in videos posted in 2017 on Facebook that the theories were “worth listening to”.[7][8] She posted 57 articles found in the archives of the American Truth Seeker website.[9] Greene later distanced herself from the conspiracy theory and rejected the label of “QAnon candidate.”[1]

In a 2017 video posted to Facebook, Green expressed doubt that the perpetrator of the 2017 Las Vegas shooting acted alone.[10] She also called George Soros, a Jewish businessman, a Nazi.[11][12] After the 2018 midterm elections, Greene stated that the election of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib was part of “an Islamic invasion of our government.”[13]

In 2018, Greene expressed support for a conspiracy theory that a plane did not hit the Pentagon during the September 11 attacks, saying that "it’s odd there’s never any evidence shown for a plane in the Pentagon,” despite video evidence.[14] She later admitted on Twitter that the 9/11 conspiracy theory is “not correct.”[1]

After the first round of voting in the 2020 election, Politico unearthed videos published by Greene where she expressed racist, antisemitic, and Islamophobic views, which led to condemnation from Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise.[12]
 
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JonNC:
Oh, New York Times, a beacon of racist writings. The pit’s view of the kettle is unconvincing.
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A whole lotta ad hominem going on …
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Kind of like what’s said about Breitbart and Fox
 
JonNC said:
Here you go.
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OK, what do the people say who brought the charges? That doctor in MI probably could get 15 gymnasts to say they had not been molested but he went to jail for serial molestation. That sort of witnessing is kind of off the subject: The question is what do the victims say?
 
Nepperhan said:
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JonNC:
Here you go.
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OK, what do the people say who brought the charges? That doctor in MI probably could get 15 gymnasts to say they had not been molested but he went to jail for serial molestation. That sort of witnessing is kind of off the subject: The question is what do the victims say?
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The question is, considering the testimony presented, what were to motives of the accusers.
 
JonNC said:
The question is, considering the testimony presented, what were to motives of the accusers.
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Motive? You avoid the issue of harm. What happened to the victims and how was Jordan involved or not involved? Motives really are not material in situations like this.
 
Nepperhan said:
Motive? You avoid the issue of harm.
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Jordan harmed no one. That much is clear.
Nepperhan said:
What happened to the victims and how was Jordan involved or not involved? Motives really are not material in situations like this.
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We already know he was not involved. Why was he wrongfully implicated? It is a disturbing trend when one views it along with the despicable character smear on Justice Kavanaugh.
 
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