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Phil’s gotten off to a good start with the 1st 9,000. Have you reviewed that file?It’s so simple, produce a list with 33,000+ Protestant denominations and then the question is answered.
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What are your findings?
Phil’s gotten off to a good start with the 1st 9,000. Have you reviewed that file?It’s so simple, produce a list with 33,000+ Protestant denominations and then the question is answered.
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I’m obeying the forum’s rules in addressing the OP’s question and you are criticizing me for doing this???So, IOW, you don’t actually know how many Protestant denominations there are. Thus, as far as you know, there could be 3, 30, 30000, or even more than that. Your persistent harping about a lack of an itemized list while at the same time consistently ignoring the parts of this thread that attempt to deal with the scope of the unbiblical fracturing of the Church caused by Protestantism are tiresome at best.
– Mark L. Chance.
Numerical literacy would help.I’m obeying the forum’s rules in addressing the OP’s question and you are criticizing me for doing this???
Actually there is another important point that comes from the failure to produce the list for 33,000+ Protestant denominations. It is the issue of honesty and truthfulness, I mean it’s so obvious that a list for 33,000+ Protestant denominations doesn’t exist because if it did it certainly would have been posted by now. So why aren’t people being honest and truthful and stating the fact that there isn’t 33,000+ Protestant denominations. Also how can one believe someone who can’t be honest and truthful in this minor issue as compared to other major issues?
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One question I would ask in this post maybe a silly one, but simple. In looking at all the divisions in the Protestant faith… Can a member from one denomination commune with another denomination?When you get back, would you care to help us craft valid criteria for Christian denominations?
I think the numbers discussion is all the more difficult absent commonly-accepted definitions and terminology.
Clearly, the source for the 33,000 number presumed that each representative body within a nation’s borders was somehow a separate denomination from a very similar body or bodies outside of those borders, which is why Phil’s suggested the need to divide each by the number of countries the denomination is truly present within.
What is a denomination, and how do we tell one from the other?
I think this may vary by community. Communion is very rare in some, even without any Eucharistic overtones to it.One question I would ask in this post maybe a silly one, but simple. In looking at all the divisions in the Protestant faith… Can a member from one denomination commune with another denomination?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but communion strongly enforces unity within the body of Christ. Out of all the rites in Catholicism, a Catholic can commune with another Catholic rite (denom) correct?
Communion can be seen as a unifying part of a Christian body.
I would ask… If protestant Christians are in union with one another, then why isn’t a Baptist allowed to commune with a Lutheran? or vice versa? This goes for ALL protestant denoms.
Good old common sense would help!Numerical literacy would help.
Yes, but in my eyes, that still promotes disunity within Christ’s body. Baptists believe the Lord’s Supper is merely symbolic, but Lutherans take the literal meaning of “is” to mean exactly that.I think this may vary by community. Communion is very rare in some, even without any Eucharistic overtones to it.
Visiting services when we were making our rounds was never a problem. Indeed, in one Presbyterian service, the pastor claimed to have just the prior week attended a Methodist service to see if he might be a Methodist, but decided it was too boring. He didn’t act as though it were somehow inappropriate to do such a thing, much less talk about it before his own flock. Perhaps the fact that he hadn’t yet been to seminary and was an acting pastor may have made a difference.
You obviously don’t understand how big a list with 33,000 items in it is.Good old common sense would help!
There’s a link facility in these forums but of course you already know this and it’s another deflection re the OP’s question.
Will there be an honest and truthful response to the OP’s question??
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No, I’m criticizing your refusal to answer a simple question.I’m obeying the forum’s rules in addressing the OP’s question and you are criticizing me for doing this???
So, then, in order that you can be demonstrated trustworthy, you’re going to stop refusing to answer simple questions, right?Also how can one believe someone who can’t be honest and truthful in this minor issue as compared to other major issues?
It would depend on what he meant by “corporate”. Many Fundamentalist communities operate much like a corporation, with the pastor as CEO and the elders as the board of directors. This doesn’t seem to do much for unity, unless one considers the doctrinal compromises of the megachurch movements to be heading in the right direction.Yes, but in my eyes, that still promotes disunity within Christ’s body. Baptists believe the Lord’s Supper is merely symbolic, but Lutherans take the literal meaning of “is” to mean exactly that.
My journey has lead me to believe that what we need is an acting authority to set the facts straight (and I’m catching hell from the LCMS for it).
I forgot who said it, but a Protestant theologian said that protestantism needs to become more corporate to survive, and if I’m not mistaken, that’s a characteristic of the RC.
This is rather like arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Any rational count of Protestant denominations can easily number in the thousands, if not 33,000+. I think there is adequate proof in any urban phone book that there is more than one Protestant denomination. The shards of Christianity separated from the Holy See continue to shatter into smaller and smaller pieces with an ever-more a la’ carte approach to piecemeal truth that reduces the revelation of Christ Jesus to the taste of individual preference. Since Christ’s last prayer was for the unity of His Church, any more than One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church is too many.Nice try but you too have failed to produce the evidence that shows that there is 33,000+ Protestant denominations.
BTW you will never be able to produce such evidence because none exists.
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The source was given - it’s in the World Encyclopedia.To repeat, the OP started this thread not me and the OP asked the following question;
Where is the list?
It’s so simple, produce a list with 33,000+ Protestant denominations and then the question is answered.
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I am sorry to say but I don’t think Protestant’s surviving their breakaway from the Catholic Church is a all part of Divine Providence and Divine Plan. Christ has already used His terrible saw and what we have now are just the beginning effects of what is to come. The Divine objective is one Catholic Apostolic Faith.I forgot who said it, but a Protestant theologian said that protestantism needs to become more corporate to survive, and if I’m not mistaken, that’s a characteristic of the RC.
Open your local phone book to the “Yellow Pages” and start counting! Then start getting every phone book from every other city and keep counting! You can clump denenominations like Western Rite Catholics but can you group together Baptists - I think not since often each preacher preaches a different Word or variation thereto.Does anyone know where I can access the reference that contains a listing of the 33,000+ Protestant denominations?
Thanks for your help.
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GRAND TOTAL PROTESTANTS: Thirty-Three Billion, Nine-Hundred Eighty-Eight Million, Seven Hundred and 77 and 1/2.![]()
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