Trump Steps Up Attacks on Mail Vote, Making False Claims About Fraud

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LeafByNiggle:
The people in Milwaukee care very much, but the GOP officials who would allocate funds for polling places apparently didn’t care.
Milwaukee is hardly a Republican stronghold. If the officials wouldn’t pay for polling places…
It wasn’t a matter of pay. The problem was the shortage of people to work the polls amidst the covid-19 crisis. The Democrats wanted to postpone the election (it was for State Supreme Court and a primary) but the Republicans would not hear of it and took the Governor to court to force the election to be on the day originally scheduled. This, while other states were postponing primaries. Regardless of whose fault it is, the fact remains that people were disenfranchised. Wisconsin has no-excuse absentee balloting, but there was not enough time to get those ballots out.
 
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Milwaukee is hardly a Republican stronghold. If the officials wouldn’t pay for polling places, your own party is to blame. Maybe they do that so people will want mail-in voting so their bosses can do all the voting for the populace. Handier.
Maybe there is nothing wrong with mail-in voting and you don’t know what you are talking about and are making up excuses to attack Democrats.
No, RR is right in what he said, because he was responding to my implication that it was the fault of Republicans. Although I do agree that there is nothing wrong with mail-in voting.
 
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  1. Voter ID affects only attempts at voter impersonation, not all vote fraud. The incidence of voter impersonation is so small that it has been called miniscule. "The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”
" A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast."

  1. There is no Constitutional right to a secret ballot. How individuals voted has been examined by the courts is some isolated cases.
  2. This thread is about the fact that Trumps lies and inaccuracies have become so common that they are taken as a matter of course. Americans can no longer depend on what a president says, a sad turn of events.
" A reporter asked White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany about the “carefully written” letter from Trump’s doctor and why the public should believe that he’s actually taking hydroxychloroquine. McEnany suggested the entire line of inquiry was inappropriate.
“The reason is the president of the United States said it, and if it were any other president of the United States, the media would take him at his word.”
Well, yes. That’s exactly right. If any other American president, regardless of party, had told the public about a medication he was taking, it’s likely that the political world – journalists, voters, public officials, et al. – would simply assume that the president was telling the truth.

And therein lies the point: Donald J. Trump has no credibility because he doesn’t tell the truth . When he claims to be taking a potentially dangerous medication, there’s reason for skepticism – in part because the assertion is so difficult to believe, and in part because the president has a breathtaking track record for dishonesty."

 
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Sherikia Hawkins was charged Monday with six felony counts for allegedly altering absentee ballots during the November 2018 election in her capacity as city clerk for the Detroit suburb of Southfield, Mich.

Hawkins, a 38-year-old registered Democrat, stands accused of altering 193 absentee ballots. She was arraigned Monday in Southfield on charges including falsifying returns or records, forgery of a public record, misconduct in office, and multiple counts of using a computer to commit a crime. She was released on $15,000 bond.

The alleged misconduct was discovered after the Oakland County Clerk’s Office noticed that 193 voter files had been changed to reflect that the voters failed to include a valid signature or return date, when all of the implicated voters had in fact included both items. The county clerk’s office later discovered the original voter files in the trash at the election-division office. The Michigan State Police then launched an investigation that resulted in Hawkins’s arrest.
 
It really does amaze that Democrats no longer want the secret ballot. The entire first world has it, but now we’re to go back to the bogus elections in the dictatorships where there’s no such thing. There’s no way democracy will survive abandoning it. Even the Democrats will hate it if they succeed in destroying it.
 
It really does amaze that Democrats no longer want the secret ballot. The entire first world has it, but now we’re to go back to the bogus elections in the dictatorships where there’s no such thing. There’s no way democracy will survive abandoning it. Even the Democrats will hate it if they succeed in destroying it.
Having mail-in ballots is not abandoning secret ballots. . . .
 
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According to Charleston’s Post and Courier , the ballots “have since made their way to Charleston-area voters, state and county election officials said, but it is just the latest problem with SeaChange Print Innovations, which prints and mails absentee ballots for 13 S.C. counties.”

South Carolina election officials are viewing the latest mistake as a final straw, as some Greenville County voters previously received the wrong ballots this year, and “some Charleston County voters received ballots that were folded in a way that could make them tougher to read by scanning machines,” South Carolina Election Commission spokesman Chris Whitmire said, according to the outlet:
 
Trump began using the full power of his office to find evidence of this 3+ years ago.
Trump was highly motivated to find evidence.
Trump found ungots
 
Oh, I see. Doesn’t have anything to do with Trump. A person he hired at one time was found guilty of some kind of election fraud in a non-related election. But it did present a good opportunity for the publication to make it look as if Trump was involved in election fraud.
 
Oh, I see. Doesn’t have anything to do with Trump.
You didn’t see the post on the mid-term elections in Michigan? Trump wasn’t running then, either.

I just showed others involved in vote fraud, since it seemed the time to post examples. There’s not much on voter impersonation, though. That’s the only thing that involves voter ID’s.
 
Oh, I see. Doesn’t have anything to do with Trump. A person he hired at one time was found guilty of some kind of election fraud in a non-related election. But it did present a good opportunity for the publication to make it look as if Trump was involved in election fraud.
It just shows the kind of people Trump associates himself with. That ought to reflect on the man himself.
 
It just shows the kind of people Trump associates himself with. That ought to reflect on the man himself.
The prolife marchers would find this implied negative assessment of them disappointing, but not surprising.
 
The prolife marchers would find this implied negative assessment of them disappointing, but not surprising.
Don’t worry, as to supporters, Trump still has overwhelming support among the white supremacists. If you want Trump’s supporters to reflect on him.
 
Oh? How many votes is that? No biased guesses, now. REal facts. Do you have any?
 
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