Trump's stunning abdication of leadership comes as pandemic worsens

[JonNC]

JonNC:

What can Biden do different?

Do what New Zealand did?

Certainly we can learn from an island nation of 5,000,000 people. But their restrictions bordered on authoritarian. Not sure Americans would buy into it.
The key is to protect the most vulnerable. We did a lousy job of that and still are.

 

[Victoria33]

New Zealand is relatively isolated, does not experience all of the human traffic going in and out as well.

 

[Victoria33]

Some one on the Democratic side, epidemiologist and advisor to the Obama White House said they were totally unprepared for H1N1 and that they lucked out that it was not as deadly as the coronavirus.

 

[JonNC]

It will be over by Easter>”
“It will just disappear”
“Maybe I’m immune, I don’t know.”

Sure, he took it seriously. Words to live by!

Lousy predictions. Lesson: You don’t make predictions about a virus nothing is known about. Has nothing to do with whether your policies were based on taking it seriously. Obviously, they were.

Led by example? What are the White House infection numbers now? He presided over superspreader reception!

It.is.a.virus. It doesn’t care who you are, where you are.
Progressives promoted riots in the streets for months during a pandemic. Progressive leaders promoted and were complicit in them.

Trump is out of his depth in dealing with a national emergency. He needs to step aside.

Trump did an excellent job, all things considered. As Fauci said, he did everything they asked him to do.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

In the case of a pandemic, stay out of the health care professionals’ way and let them do their jobs.

 

[Nepperhan]

Progressives promoted riots in the streets for months during a pandemic. Progressive leaders promoted and were complicit in them.

Not one official promoted any riot. Just stop.

Trump did an excellent job, all things considered.

Not at all. Millions of citizens and most scientists and epidemiologists think otherwise.

“All things considered”? We should consider what, that he had other things on his mind while hundreds of thousands of people were dying? That he could not predict what would happen when he eliminated Obama’s pandemic measures?

 

[JonNC]

Not one official promoted any riot. Just stop.

When they told their police to stand down, they promoted and were complicit.

 

[zsiga]

For a conservative, they’re mocked and called names at a much greater rate than liberals have to face.

Do you have some statistics for this claim? Or is it on the same level as the “election fraud” claims, which are dismissed by judges.

By the way, I do not follow the media in this respect, I only can draw conclusions based upon what I read on this forum. And the “baby killers”, and committing genocide and Marxist socialists are more than abundant around here. (By the way, it looks like that those who speak of Marxism have absolutely no idea what they are speaking of.)

 

[Annie]

Nepperham said 2 posts ago (it won’t let me quote it?): he eliminated Obama’s pandemic measures?

What are you talking about? There were no pandemic measures in place to eliminate!

 

[Cathoholic]

zsiga . . .

there is no leadership from the WH.

You now have a record-time vaccine courtesy in part, from the leadership from the WH.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

By the way, I do not follow the media in this respect, I only can draw conclusions based upon what I read on this forum.

So, your claim that liberal ideas are constantly denigrated and liberal people demonized is not by observation of the wide world, but conclusions drawn from observing one wee little forum.
Okay then.

 

[Annie]

So, your claim that liberal ideas are constantly denigrated and liberal people demonized is not by observation of the wide world, but conclusions drawn from observing one wee little forum.
Okay then.

And observing that “one wee little forum” for only 10 days at that!

 

[F_Marturana]

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf

Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised | AP News

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

0Scarlett_nidiyilii:

So, your claim that liberal ideas are constantly denigrated and liberal people demonized is not by observation of the wide world, but conclusions drawn from observing one wee little forum.

Okay then.

And observing that “one wee little forum” for only 10 days at that!

LOL good catch

 

[zsiga]

You now have a record-time vaccine courtesy in part, from the leadership from the WH.

You mean DESPITE the lack of leadership… Glad to be able to help you out.

So, your claim that liberal ideas are constantly denigrated and liberal people demonized is not by observation of the wide world, but conclusions drawn from observing one wee little forum.
Okay then.

I only said: “denigrated and demonized” on this forum. Which is even more astonishing, which this is supposed to be Catholic forum, based upon Catholic principles.

And observing that “one wee little forum” for only 10 days at that!

My “lurking period” was much longer than that.

 

[Annie]

My “lurking period” was much longer than that.

Welcome to CAF

I can assure you that people from both sides of the political spectrum have had their bad days reflected in how they treated people from “the other side.” It does go in cycles, tho.

 

[scousekiwi]

I thought this thread was going to announce what lots of analysts are predicting. That Trump will resign

Seriously, when I saw the headline, I thought Donald Trump had not merely conceded the election but actually resigned the presidency.

 

[zsiga]

Welcome to CAF

Thank you.

 

[JonNC]

Motherwit:

I thought this thread was going to announce what lots of analysts are predicting. That Trump will resign

Seriously, when I saw the headline, I thought Donald Trump had not merely conceded the election but actually resigned the presidency.

That would be really inconvenient.
All those bumper stickers would have to be changed.
“Impeach 46” to “Impeach 47”. And “25 for 46” to “25 for 47”.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

only said: “denigrated and demonized” on this forum. Which is even more astonishing, which this is supposed to be Catholic forum, based upon Catholic principles.

So, CAF is “mean” to liberals.