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Sowing distrust in the opposing candidate is a campaign’s job. ?
 
Sure. Let’s start there I live in Kentucky. Look at the map of counties in Kentucky that went for trump vs Biden.

Almost every state position and representative is a Republican. 48/140 elected positions are democrats. Long story short, we are overwhelmingly not Democrat/liberal/left/progressive whatever you want to call it. Outside of two counties, jefferson and fayette, no one here wants that.
 
RhodesianSon said:
Sure. Let’s start there I live in Kentucky. Look at the map of counties in Kentucky that went for trump vs Biden.

Almost every state position and representative is a Republican. 48/140 elected positions are democrats. Long story short, we are overwhelmingly not Democrat/liberal/left/progressive whatever you want to call it. Outside of two counties, jefferson and fayette, no one here wants that.
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So, you see my point that you so nicely illustrated. There are some Democrats in your state that share your interest in having good roads. Yet you are unwilling to acknowledge that common interest, perhaps thinking that in so doing you would be letting in all sorts of other policies that you disagree with. This is contrary to the principles under which this nation was established, and contrary to your own self-interests. By not acknowledging one little area of common interest with Democrats you are foregoing the possibility of utilizing the help of Democrats to get good roads, or to keep roads from getting worse. You can’t just wish people away that disagree without. (“no one here wants that”). The only question is how you are going to make the best of the situation.
 
This election is too strange. Another mysterious box of ballots just showed up in Philadelphia. All ballots are for Biden.

and again not allowing GOP poll watchers to do their job

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I’ll concede roads.

Next point.
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Isn’t one point enough to establish the general principle? I’m not interested to showing that there is a huge number of common areas of interest, because there probably isn’t. But that’s how the system is supposed to work, that even when people have very few points of agreement, they at least respect each other enough to benefit from those few points of interest without in the least conceding any point on which they truly disagree.
 
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MagdalenaRita said:
Interesting that swing states had to stop counting last night, while other states continued counting and then many ballots were mysteriously found in the middle of the night in these same swing states and then when they are counting these ballots today doors are closed, observers are not allowed in and windows blocked. Nothing suspicious about that.
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What swing states had to stop counting last night? And where are observers not allowed? While no state is going to let a mob of “observers” in, every state has official bi-partisan teams of observers very closely watching the count.
 
Roads are trivial. And not of any great importance. That’s not enough to convince me it’s better to work with them than ignore them when you have an overwhelming majority as we do in Kentucky, and to stone wall them on what you can where you don’t have the majority on things less mundane than roads, I.e. how much of my hard earned goes to federal coffers to be wasted, whether or not I can choose not to do business with someone if I disagree with their lifestyle, whether or not my grand daughter will have to share a restroom with men pretending to be women.
 
RhodesianSon said:
whether or not I can choose not to do business with someone if I disagree with their lifestyle, whether or not my grand daughter will have to share a restroom with men pretending to be women
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Sneak Previews of Coming Attractions I fear.
 
ChuckB said:
What swing states had to stop counting last night? And where are observers not allowed? While no state is going to let a mob of “observers” in, every state has official bi-partisan teams of observers very closely watching the count.
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There are poll watchers from each party. It is their job to watch the counting.
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I have not heard this. What I have heard is that there has been problems with the post office getting votes back to be counted. And a judge is demanding an explanation from the post master general
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they are discussing it right now on Fox news. Law suits have been filed regarding all of this and there are whistleblowers speaking out in Pennsylvania.
 
Did you know there is a livestream of the ballot counting centers in Philadelphia, Nevada, and Georgia? I didn’t google the rest of the uncalled states or counties, but you can watch them as they count the ballots. I can’t make you believe anything, but the transparency is there.
 
Greenybird said:
I can’t make you believe anything, but the transparency is there.
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I believe it, you can see part of what is going on but can you see everything happening in the building?

There are poll watchers whose job is to be close at hand during the counting. That is their job, not people on the internet.
 
That was a good read…thanks for posting it. My only question is, who really thought either candidate could reunite Americans? No matter who wins, we are as divided as we were before and I don’t see a pathway out of it. What will it take for us to reverse this? Usually, a pandemic would bring us together and the opposite happened with that, too!

Do we have to hope for something even worse? Or, is this just a new normal that we’ll have to learn to live and deal with? 😱
 
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You were predicting a landslide victory for Trump, weren’t you?

Assuming Biden wins I imagine we will get his presidency for four years, but the idea that he cheated his way into power (true or not) will be his Russian collusion story, in that we’ll hear about it constantly from the Republicans.
 
MagdalenaRita said:
This election is too strange. Another mysterious box of ballots just showed up in Philadelphia. All ballots are for Biden.

and again not allowing GOP poll watchers to do their job

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Again: it isn’t surprising that mail-in ballots are largely Democrat votes. And again: the poll watching issue has been addressed here already. If they aren’t pre-approved poll watchers who have been trained, they can’t be allowed in. I’m not sure why you feel the need to make this sound nefarious when there are legitimate answers to everything you’ve raised as “questionable.”
 
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