Who will you be supporting in the U.S. presidential election with our Catholic values in mind?

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I’d rather see him converted from his habit of attacking people and self-aggrandizing…
I would interject that great revivals have one hallmark - humility. The recognition of one’s own sinfulness, not one’s greatness, must come first. Sack cloth and ashes, figuratively, are the path from sin to repentance. Times when nations have returned to God, this has been public and visible. The single great that led to all others was not abortion, but pride. It is idolatry of the ego, that says “I will not serve.”

I would also add that the description of Satan from the Catechism is that he was a liar from the beginning and the father of lies. The conversion of America, and the end to the idol of abortion will have to come first from the inside, with humility. A pure political solution will not work.
 
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I think it is a bit disingenuous to be throwing around the “but the death penalty” card. Comparatively yesterday in the history of the church, a currently living Pope said this:
Sorry you feel that way… not how I intended it. My point was that there are many things objectionable to voting for Trump to be president from a Catholic viewpoint. One important life issue is his ardent support for the death penalty…which is against Church teaching.

Frankly, I’m not sure how a Catholic could cast a vote for Trump in good conscience
The current Pope’s revision is frankly conditional, not an absolute judgement. He has applied his own prudential judgment to the church. It can easily be rescinded by another Pope. Therefore it is not a development in doctrine.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith disagrees with you. Please reference the link to the the Vatican document posted earlier where it is clear that the Church considers the teaching on the inviolability of the human person and the inadmissibility of capital punishment a development of doctrine. I appreciate your opinion, but will respect the Church’s position on the subject.

Regardless of how you feel about the Church’s formal teaching on the topic… Don’t you find it appalling that for no apparent reason, Trump is reintroducing the death penalty in the US after years of being in hiatus? That alone should make any Catholic leery of pulling the lever in support of Mr Trump, no?
 
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I think China, per the experts really is a long-term threat and addtionally, for Catholic values, obviously, Senator Rubio is very pro-life.


I certainly will not be voting for the party that stands behind Planned Parenthood and the snuffing out of a million American lives every year nor have I in decades.
 
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Let’s separate children from their parents and put them in baby jail because we’re prolife?
Separating children from adults claiming to be their parents until can conform they are parents. This is for childrens safety since frequently the adult is not the parent but a coyote who may be trafficking the child. So we do see the humanity in the children since we’re ensuring they’re not being trafficked.
 
Since I plan to vote for Trump (In fact, I’d crawl over broken glass to do so), I’m obviously severely out of alignment with “our Catholic values”, and I’m okay with that.
 
You said you are okay with being out of alignment with Catholic values when you vote. The only other reason I can think of is that you are not Catholic. Is that why you put quotes around “our Catholic values”?
 
It doesn’t matter a bit who I vote for. My state’s electoral votes always go to the GOP. Presidential elections here are generally just a dog and pony show so one group of people can hate on another. The result is a foregone conclusion. A baboon could get our electoral votes as long as he had an R behind his name on the ballot.
 
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By putting them in baby jails? And then not reuniting them with their parents, misplacing the children etc? Not supplying soap and toothpaste and feminine hygiene products?

We treat prisoners of war better.
 
So that would suggest you think Catholic values are being misrepresented then right?
Certainly I find the notion that “our Catholic values” can be meaningfully distilled in to an online checklist to be more than a little problematic.
 
For the first time in about 40 years, I may consider voting for a Republican. If I vote, I’ll probably support Trump. He’s not the best thing since sliced bread, but he’s the best president I’ve seen in my lifetime.

My isidewith poll came up with Gary Johnson.
 
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Apparently its worse to have a rude President who saves babies than a polite President who butchers them
It isn’t that he is rude, although his habitual insulting of rivals alone is incompatible with modeling sanctity. I could live with rudeness, if that were the only problem.

No, the problem is that when I listen directly to what he says and tweets and compare it to the facts myself, he has been consistently speaking blatant falsehoods. This isn’t the media slanting or twisting what he says. I have verified it myself: He just makes stuff up. He does it consistently and he does it brazenly.

Sometimes, when you have two unacceptable choices–and sorry, but an ingrained habit of wild misrepresentation of the facts is unacceptable–you have to resign yourself to voting for a third choice that is acceptable, even if the candidate also has flaws and seems to have little or no choice of winning.

I understand that not everyone votes that way, and that it isn’t wrong to take the least-unacceptable candidate, but in his case I think the President’s consistent efforts to undermine the political process by spreading raging falsehoods is too much. What he says simply cannot be trusted to be true. How can we keep having that? We may get it, but I won’t vote for it. The Lord will permit us to choose a President who reflects what our nation is choosing to become, but our President cannot possibly be a candidate positively sent by the Almighty. It is impossible.

It breaks my heart that this President has been so strongly associated with the Christian vote, that so few of his supporters have taken him to task for his habitual lying and insulting, as if he is some savior this nation cannot afford to lose. No, he isn’t. We ought to have more faith than to settle for defending that. It is a mark against our integrity, it really is, and we won’t get rid of what this is doing to our reputation just because he’s voted out of office. We’ll be marked for the lack of integrity we tolerate.
He’s not the best thing since sliced bread, but he’s the best president I’ve seen in my lifetime.
I could believe the alternatives are the worst you’ve ever seen, but I can’t believe there is any convincing argument that this is really the best President we’ve had. (Heaven help us.)

Can you describe what virtues he has that overcome his brazen untruthfulness and habit of insulting his rivals? His relentless need for self-agrandizement? A child who acted like he does would deserve to be grounded.
 
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