Why is Catholic Bashing soooo popular?

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Cinette said:
Oh! are you Humpty Dumpty’s twin?

😉 :crutches: :ouch:
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Well one’s the foot heals I will make a second attempt.

Totally off topic.
A joke about my right foot (which is swollen and green) at the moment.

Why has my right foot turned green? Because it is rather jealous of my left foot which is still in great shape.😃
 
I must admit that I am a bit intimidated by the people on this forum. They are not only very intelligent but also very well informed. But I want to say something that may not make me look all that brilliant but maybe I’m not. I have a lot of good protestant friends. Don’t get me wrong, they know that I don’t agree with them because I don’t agree with some of them almost every day. But as far as the Catholic bashing goes it reminds me of when I was growing up. We were lower middle class and I had friends from all financial levels. but back then people didn’t accept charity. If you offered a poor person something they could get very angry and prideful. It seems to me that the protestants are like that They seem impoverished by their own will. They have the Bible… We have the Bible, the rosary, our beloved Virgin Mother, 2000 years of history, all the Saints and their writings, the Magesterium, The true Presence in the Holy Eucharist, Perpetual Adoration, The Mass, Our beloved Priests, Nuns and Deacons, and brothers, And countless Church organizations like the KOC, the St. Vincent De Paul society etc… My point is that I think a lot of Catholic bashing comes from jealousy. And they should be jealous! This Church is fantastic!
 
flaco40 said:
I must admit that I am a bit intimidated by the people on this forum. They are not only very intelligent but also very well informed. But I want to say something that may not make me look all that brilliant but maybe I’m not. I have a lot of good protestant friends. Don’t get me wrong, they know that I don’t agree with them because I don’t agree with some of them almost every day. But as far as the Catholic bashing goes it reminds me of when I was growing up. We were lower middle class and I had friends from all financial levels. but back then people didn’t accept charity. If you offered a poor person something they could get very angry and prideful. It seems to me that the protestants are like that They seem impoverished by their own will. They have the Bible… We have the Bible, the rosary, our beloved Virgin Mother, 2000 years of history, all the Saints and their writings, the Magesterium, The true Presence in the Holy Eucharist, Perpetual Adoration, The Mass, Our beloved Priests, Nuns and Deacons, and brothers, And countless Church organizations like the KOC, the St. Vincent De Paul society etc… My point is that I think a lot of Catholic bashing comes from jealousy. And they should be jealous! This Church is fantastic!
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Sounds pretty intelligent to me!
 
flaco40 said:
I must admit that I am a bit intimidated by the people on this forum. They are not only very intelligent but also very well informed. But I want to say something that may not make me look all that brilliant but maybe I’m not. I have a lot of good protestant friends. Don’t get me wrong, they know that I don’t agree with them because I don’t agree with some of them almost every day. But as far as the Catholic bashing goes it reminds me of when I was growing up. We were lower middle class and I had friends from all financial levels. but back then people didn’t accept charity. If you offered a poor person something they could get very angry and prideful. It seems to me that the protestants are like that They seem impoverished by their own will. They have the Bible… We have the Bible, the rosary, our beloved Virgin Mother, 2000 years of history, all the Saints and their writings, the Magesterium, The true Presence in the Holy Eucharist, Perpetual Adoration, The Mass, Our beloved Priests, Nuns and Deacons, and brothers, And countless Church organizations like the KOC, the St. Vincent De Paul society etc… My point is that I think a lot of Catholic bashing comes from jealousy. And they should be jealous! This Church is fantastic!
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Very well said. But I think it is more than that. They don’t even know they are impoverished. This is very evident in all the conversion stories I’ve read. You get this wow, when they first make that discovery. Then fear sets in. The Oh No, How could I have got that so wrong, all those years again. Then joy again at finally coming home to the feast.
 
Cinette,

You ask a darn good question. That’s just it, I don’t think I ever came across one. But look, any serious Catholic would not feel the need to go after something that isn’t the truth anyway. It’s a royal waste of time. I think Catholic writers want to teach the faith handed down to us. That’s it. We grow with insight along the way, and that’s exciting. Trashing and bashing another religion just isn’t any fun at all. Please. I never met a Catholic that looks to do this.
 
sauce said:
Cinette,

You ask a darn good question. That’s just it, I don’t think I ever came across one. But look, any serious Catholic would not feel the need to go after something that isn’t the truth anyway. It’s a royal waste of time. I think Catholic writers want to teach the faith handed down to us. That’s it. We grow with insight along the way, and that’s exciting. Trashing and bashing another religion just isn’t any fun at all. Please. I never met a Catholic that looks to do this.
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I have asked this question on several threads and no Protestant has ever even attempted to answer. They have totally ignored my question.

This speaks volumes.

The fact is non-Catholics have produced many books trashing the Catholic Church. A lot of money has been made in this endeavour.

You are right, we do not need to trash them - what for? It would only reflect on us.

Blessings
Cinette:)
 
I wish ALL a very Blessed Christmas.

Remember when you celebrate Christmas be inclusive and invite anyone who might be spending Christmas alone.

Never let anyone be without love this Christmas.

Cinette:)
 
PJM said:
Anyone who has read more than a dozen post on ***CA Forum ***is aware of the intensity of “Catholic Bashing.”

Why do you think this is?

God bless,
PJM m.c.
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Oh that’s simple! It’s because the Catholic Church is the one true church. The equation is easy, the more bashing a religion receives the more evidence that they’re doing something right. It’s the same with the Mormons and practically every other religion on the planet. It’s called persecution, and it’s essential to all “Faiths”.
 
Chick Publications is notorious for Catholic bashing. And Tony Alamo who is in Texas I think. Every time I see this stuff my temperature rises. I think it’s because I can’t stand ignorance, as well as an inflexible mindset. (Deadly stuff)

I like the CA Forum. Very intelligent and peaceful Catholics on board. I didn’t know you guys existed. We must encourage one another.

Merry Christmas, Cinette. Thanks for the thumbs up
Benedictus 2.

Has anyone heard of Mike Gendron, an ex-Catholic who makes a living by bashing Catholics? Google his name and you’ll see what I mean. Hold on to your seat belts. Tell me what you think.
It is quite troublesome, the things he says.
 
sauce said:
Chick Publications is notorious for Catholic bashing. And Tony Alamo who is in Texas I think. Every time I see this stuff my temperature rises. I think it’s because I can’t stand ignorance, as well as an inflexible mindset. (Deadly stuff)

I like the CA Forum. Very intelligent and peaceful Catholics on board. I didn’t know you guys existed. We must encourage one another.

Merry Christmas, Cinette. Thanks for the thumbs up
Benedictus 2.

Has anyone heard of Mike Gendron, an ex-Catholic who makes a living by bashing Catholics? Google his name and you’ll see what I mean. Hold on to your seat belts. Tell me what you think.
It is quite troublesome, the things he says.
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The parable of the wheat and the tares applies.

I couldn’t bear to look that up but I bet he couldn’t have his way with the Church and that is why he is like that.

Yes, we will surely meet again on the CAF threads next year. One learns a lot.

Have a Blessed and Joyous Christmas everyone.

Ciao
Cinette
 
sauce said:
Cinette,

You ask a darn good question. That’s just it, I don’t think I ever came across one. But look, any serious Catholic would not feel the need to go after something that isn’t the truth anyway. It’s a royal waste of time. I think Catholic writers want to teach the faith handed down to us. That’s it. We grow with insight along the way, and that’s exciting. Trashing and bashing another religion just isn’t any fun at all. Please. I never met a Catholic that looks to do this.
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As an Orthodox Christian, let me assure you I have consistently endured more persecution since I joined this forum a few weeks ago than in my entire existence! Here is just one example: as one poster uncharitably put it, the views of a prominent (ex-Catholic) Anglican priest and author were “grist for the mill.” My faith and my beliefs are constantly criticized and ridiculed, even on non-Catholic threads! Obviously a veil of anonymity facilitates bashing by e-mail! :crutches:
 
Triciacat said:
As an Orthodox Christian, let me assure you I have consistently endured more persecution since I joined this forum a few weeks ago than in my entire existence! Here is just one example: as one poster uncharitably put it, the views of a prominent (ex-Catholic) Anglican priest and author were “grist for the mill.” My faith and my beliefs are constantly criticized and ridiculed, even on non-Catholic threads! Obviously a veil of anonymity facilitates bashing by e-mail! :crutches:
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The anonymity is good. Let them come out with what is in their hearts. We can then present scripture-based arguments and reason. If they are bigots there is nothing that can be done.

As for me I like Protestants because they keep us on our toes. They challenge us and we get to know our faith better as we research.

When the media exposed the crisis in the Anglican church I prayed for them. I was disappointed and upset to learn from a Greek friend about how they talk during Mass as if it were a social gathering. I took a Jewish friend to temple during Rashashana (I can’t spell it) and was upset when the Jews were talking in little groups during the worship, the Rabbi rattled the prayers at a ridiculous pace and a guy in the choir was chewing gum. I am sure that is not the case everywhere but it saddened me. It is good to see people of faith being passionate about their faith.

I do respect other faiths and believe that if we bash and insult others then we are not being charitable and Christian. We are being bigots.

As for ex-Catholic priests who might hurl insults at the Church, you will probably find they couldn’t get their way and were censured for something. Anyway the parable of the wheat and the tares illustrates this very well.

I look upon Orthodox Christians as part of our Catholic Church - separated bretheren but definitely close. I would pray and defend them.

I know that the Catholic Charities all over the world extend a helping hand to all people in need, whatever the religion. It would not be authentic charity otherwise.

The Holy Spirit works through all people. Let me give you an example. A friend has a Ministry whereby she gathers abandoned children and finds them homes. She has adopted 14 black children (one, an albino with full blown AIDS). It is a wonderful thing and a real vocation - not easy by any means. At the beginning of her Ministry she was in a desperate financial situation - her husband had lost his job and had a mental breakdown and yet she still adopted two black children (apart from the 14 others later - one had been abandoned at birth in a storm water drain and the other in a toilet in the middle of a very cold winter). Her husband was in an institution. As she was going out to visit her husband one day there was a knock at the door and a Muslim man stood there. He introduced himself and asked to be shown around. At that time she had just started and it was in her own home and all she had was a small nursary. With the desperate financial situation she had no idea how she was going to meet the payment on her mortgage that month. She showed the man around her facilities and he wished her well. The following night an envelope appeared in her mailbox with exactly the amount she needed for the mortgage payment and a note “From the Muslim Community etc…” Now is that not the work of the Holy Spirit?

She has since placed more than 500 babies in adoption and has moved to a smallholding (donated by the Church), grown the facilities, built a school…

We should look at others with charity and always, always with LOVE (as Jesus taught us).

May you be blessed and I hope that next year we can continue to have strong and vigorous debates and learn from each other in mutual respect.

:love: :love: :love: :love:
 
Thanks, Cinette. You are a rose among thorns and demonstrate the true love of Christ. :flowers:
 
At the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly is an Orthodox Christian? Greek or Russian do you mean.?

I haven’t heard about any bashing as regards them. I guess all Christians are subject to this type of ridicule, however. In the end, Jesus is the final judge. There are plenty of Catholics better than I. And Jews and Protestants and non-Catholics. I just try to go with the understanding God has given me. We’re all at God’s mercy. My Catholicism has been a gift to me, so I can’t brag. We have to protect our faith and follow our conscience to the best of our ability.

I’m not saying anything new. Everybody hang in there.
 
sauce said:
At the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly is an Orthodox Christian? Greek or Russian do you mean.?

I haven’t heard about any bashing as regards them. I guess all Christians are subject to this type of ridicule, however. In the end, Jesus is the final judge. There are plenty of Catholics better than I. And Jews and Protestants and non-Catholics. I just try to go with the understanding God has given me. We’re all at God’s mercy. My Catholicism has been a gift to me, so I can’t brag. We have to protect our faith and follow our conscience to the best of our ability.

I’m not saying anything new. Everybody hang in there.
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Dear Sauce:

Your humility is to be commended!

Actually I am a Canadian of Ukrainian descent. Services in an Orthodox church are typically held in the language of the people so that all can understand, eg. an Orthodox church in Greece would conduct services in Greek. An early language of the Slavic Orthodox churches was called Slavonic, which was the liturgical language typically used in churches in Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria and Serbia, developed around the eighth century. Years ago, I was visiting an Orthodox church in Nice, France, whose services were in Russian. I also attended Orthodox services in Salt Lake City, Utah, conducted in a blend of various languages, probably to accommodate the Orthodox minority in that city. The language of the church is also an indication of the jurisdiction under which the church falls. When immigrants came to North America they brought their language and their church with them. This is why you will find Greek, Russian and Ukrainian Orthodox Churches, among many others. The language barrier is unfortunate, however, since it can discourage others of different ethnicity from attending. On a positive note, many North American Orthodox churches offer services in English, some exclusively. Most importantly, Orthodox doctrine is the same no matter what church you attend–which is why I felt as “at home” in the Orthodox church in Nice, France, and in Salt Lake City, as in my own.
 
What are your services like? Is it like our Mass? Or is it more toward bible readings and preaching? Any ritual?

By the way, I feel right at home in any Catholic church even if they speak another language. The ritual is the same. I know exactly what’s going on.:yup:

Your explanation was enlightening.
 
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