MSNBC accuses Trump of operating concentration camps

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I mean, I guess technically the term can apply since it is a camp that concentrates people where they can be managed.

But using a term with such heavy historical implication is pretty intellectually dishonest.
 
i think it is an insult to those who were put in concentration camps in WWII to call these concentration camps. when you see the living conditions of those in concentration canps during WWII, they were horrible conditions. this is the liberal media at their best. going way overboard.
 
My grandpa liberated dachau, likely participated in the reprisal killings of German guards.

Comparing these air conditioned facilities where the kids are being well fed and cared for to nazi death camps is the height of stupidity.
 
Evil maybe, ineffective almost certainly. ‘This is the way we/others have always done it’ is an especially meaningless argument when the action doesn’t seem to be especially effective in achieving the desired result.
 
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Nobody is comparing them to Nazi death camps.

It’s all in the article that you didn’t read. The term “concentration camp” pre-dates the Shoah and has an entirely different meaning than what you’re ascribing to it.
 
I read the article. You can’t honeslty believe msnbc is using the term because of its technical definition.

Yes the term likely originate from when the British were detaining boers during the boer wars in South Africa, but that’s not the visual that comes to most people’s minds.
 
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Technically, the OP was the one to make the comparison, though negatively. The Nazis did not run the only concentration camps. We too had camps for Japanese Americans, as well as POW’s.

However, the response here is probably a pretty good indicator the term should not be used, as it seems as if Nazis are all people think of.
 
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The article explains why you’re wrong, and why concentration camp =/= Nazis.

It also advocates for returning to the use of the word in order to avoid euphemism. You may personally associate the word with the Holocaust, but that’s not what it means.
 
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Here is a WAPO expose on the largest ‘concentration camp’ for the children of detainees.
They’ll be traumatized for the rest of their lives :roll_eyes:
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Respectfully opinion only in pondering 🤔 are theses precious children not already>>>>>> greatly traumatized long before they even land upon our shores>>>>> within their very own Nation>>>> their own homeland witnessing, such>>.
inhumane atrocities that took place daily, seeing their own loved ones parents, siblings, etc blown up into pieces,?
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living in far greater worst inhumane conditions within their own homeland> already traumatized >>now considering themselves to be greatly blessed, lucky to have lived through>>staying in>> what some call>>concentration camp here? >>>
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When they arrive on the shores of this great Nation>>>in what some are calling concentration camps, really? > But to them, they are being feed, clothed, being housed, cared for, feeling more >>>safely secured, from such inhumane atrocities not knowing …if they would even be alive by the end of the day? hr? minutes within their own homeland?
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Are theses precious children already >>greatly traumatized>> witnessing, seeing painfully such >>>inhumane atrocities, forced to flee on foot, where they were>>>>> living right in the middle of a war zone>>>>fleeing with just the cloths on their backs? Would they not consider it a great blessing, that they are still alive, having reach our shores?
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Are theses precious innocent children>>> are they not already greatly traumatized? >>been separated from their parents in their own homeland, war zone, seeing their loved ones, parents, friends die >>right before their own eyes, were traumatized long >>>before they even reached our shores?
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One cannot even imagine >>what their eyes have seen, know even their heart felt depth of such great sorrows, innocent suffering, they all have gone through, have we?

One can only ponder 🤔 that theses parents,their precious children >>>>who have fled on foot, are far far far>>better treated,>>feel more secured in theses shelters, where they are being provided with>> food, clothing, health care needs>> beds to sleep in etc>>> till positive solutions are attained by those elected?

Their parents even thou >>>>>their children are taken from them for now>>>>>>theses parents, >>>>> knowing their precious children>>> are now in a>>> safe place, their daily needs are being met, being cared for>>> having great>>> hope now, for a better tomorrow?

What some call concentration camps here, might be looked upon by>>> those who fled on foot, now living here in those shelters>>> has become a great blessing to them, far, far better >>>where they were once living and fled from on foot, maybe?

Peace just opinion is all. 🤔
 
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What I find pathetic is how some here are pretending the speaker wasn’t trying to be emotionally manipulative and associated these detention centers with the Nazi death camps.
 
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What I find pathetic is how some here are pretending the speaker wasn’t trying to be emotionally manipulative and associated these detention centers with the Nazi death camps.
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I must agree…these evil and immoral acts are not comparable to “Nazi death camps”…but they are quite comparable to the equally evil and disgusting acts of American slavery, when slave families were ripped apart, with husbands, wives, and children sold off piecemeal, while those defending the abominable institution used scripture to support the crimes against man and God, saying they were in reality “helping” those poor souls.
 
ROFL, so detention of criminals is now immoral? ? ?

Got a reference for that, besides your own mind.
 
Oh please…it was their choice to violate our laws. They weren’t forced to come here by being sold off by their own people like slaves were.
 
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Now being taken from nonabusive parents is a blessing. Okay…
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Respectfully opinion only being taken for now from their parents, is far better then what we cannot even imagine the trauma inhumane atrocities they left behind? Both parents and their precious children are far better off even thou separated for a short period of time. Yes it is a blessing a blessing they have reached our shores alive and now being cared for.

Being separated for a short period of time from their parents and now living in a more secure place of safety>being cared for>feed, clothed, shelter, health care needs>is not the worst thing they have lived through and fled from>> is it?

We cannot even imagine what they have inhumanely lived through, witnessed, felt their hunger pains, living in such constant fear having no place to even lay their head at night, constantly on the run etc.

Peace 🙂
 
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ROFL, so detention of criminals is now immoral? ? ?

Got a reference for that, besides your own mind.
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You are using your Trump Party talking points to obscure the issue which is not the criminality of those crossing the border illegally, but the ripping of families apart by separating children from parents.

There is no theological, religious, moral, or any other excuse for that!

But, sadly for some, when a lie is repeated often enough, to them it becomes truth.
 
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There is no theological, religious, moral, or any other excuse for that!

But, sadly for some, when a lie is repeated often enough, to them it becomes truth.
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The lie is liberals pretending that it’s not standard and preferred practice to separate children from the parent when the parent has done some act that warrants detention.
 
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The lie is liberals pretending that it’s not standard and preferred practice to separate children from the parent when the parent has done some act that warrants detention
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Stop it…you are embarassing yourself, and all who follow you here know you are smart enough to realize this “standard practice” can easily be undone by POTUS, but he and his follwers seem to like having the lame excuse to forward their xenophobic agenda of hatred.
 
What is happening is immoral and is to be condemned.


"At its core, asylum is an instrument to preserve the right to life. The Attorney General’s recent decision elicits deep concern because it potentially strips asylum from many women who lack adequate protection. These vulnerable women will now face return to the extreme dangers of domestic violence in their home country. This decision negates decades of precedents that have provided protection to women fleeing domestic violence. Unless overturned, the decision will erode the capacity of asylum to save lives, particularly in cases that involve asylum seekers who are persecuted by private actors. We urge courts and policy makers to respect and enhance, not erode, the potential of our asylum system to preserve and protect the right to life.

Additionally, I join Bishop Joe Vásquez, Chairman of USCCB’s Committee on Migration, in condemning the continued use of family separation at the U.S./Mexico border as an implementation of the Administration’s zero tolerance policy. Our government has the discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma. Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together. While protecting our borders is important, we can and must do better as a government, and as a society, to find other ways to ensure that safety. Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral."
 
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